M&M Mix and Mega Old Gens Hub

Gen 8 Hub



Art by Kaiju Bunny

Important Mechanical Changes:
  • TBD

How To Play:
TBD

Clauses
Ubers Clauses
Mega Stone Clause (only one of each stone on a team)
Overflow Stat Mod - caps stats if it would otherwise pass 654.

Banned Abilities
Shadow Tag

Banned Mega Stones
Beedrillite, Blazikenite, Gengarite, Kangaskhanite, Mawilite, Medichamite, Pidgeotite

General Bans
Baton Pass, Electrify, Moody, Shadow Tag, Calyrex-Shadow, Eternatus, Kyogre, Zacian, Zacian-Crowned

Pokémon that can't Mega Evolve
Calyrex-Ice, Calyrex-Shadow, Dialga, Eternatus, Gengar, Giratina, Groudon, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, Lugia, Lunala, Marshadow, Melmetal, Mewtwo, Naganadel, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, Palkia, Pheromosa, Rayquaza, Regigigas, Reshiram, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, Urshifu-Single-Strike, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zacian, Zekrom, Zygarde-Complete

Important Links
- Gen 8 Mix and Mega Thread
- Gen 8 Mix and Mega Resources
- Gen 8 Mix and Mega Viability Rankings
- Mix and Mega Damage Calc (by Catalystic)
- Mix and Mega Damage Calc (By PociekMociek)

:landorus-therian: :Zapdos-Galar: :Regieleki: :Magearna: :Slowbro: :Rhyperior:
- Double Ground Bulky Offense by astralydia
:Dragapult: :Entei: :Excadrill: :landorus-therian: :Magearna: :Slowbro:
-Infestation Dragapult Offense by ItsChew.
:Ho-Oh: :Solgaleo: :Tapu Koko: :Slowbro: :Blissey: :Hippowdon:
-Tapu Koko Semistall by astralydia
:Dragapult: :Slowbro: :Ho-Oh: :Magearna: :Skarmory: :Zygarde-Complete:
-Hex Dragapult Balance by beauts
:Toxapex: :Solgaleo: :Ho-Oh: :Tapu-Koko: :Blissey: :Hippowdon:
-Venusaurite Solgaleo Semistall by beauts
:Garchomp: :Mew: :Xerneas: :Regieleki: :Entei: :Solgaleo:
-Ampharosite Mew Hyper Offense by beauts
:Heatran: :Entei: :Regieleki: :Landorus-Therian: :Solgaleo: :Blissey:
-Heatran Bulky Offense by Quantum Tesseract
:Zygarde: :Blissey: :heatran: :Slowbro: :regieleki: :Zapdos:
-Heracronite Zygarde Balance by Quantum Tesseract
 
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Important Mechanical Changes:
  • Red Orb and Blue Orb can be used as Mega Stones and grant Pokemon with the relevant boosts.
  • Aggronite now grants a secondary Steel-typing, rather than removing secondary typing.
  • Pokemon who are banned from Mega Evolving may still Mega Evolve with a native Mega Stone (Mewtwo-Mega-Y, etc)
  • Pokemon can evolve using their native Mega Stones even if the Mega Stone is banned, unless otherwise stated.
  • Full Pokedex and move list are usable. This includes moves like Core Enforcer, Pursuit, Return/Frustration, and many others.
  • Z-Crystals can be used.
  • Rapid Spin is 20 BP and does not increase Speed.
  • Grassy, Electric, and Psychic Terrain boost is 1.5x instead of 1.3x.
  • Defog no longer removes Terrains.
  • Inner Focus, Oblivious, Scrappy, Rattled, and Own Tempo no longer have immunity to Intimidate
  • Disguise does no damage to Mimikyu after activation.
How To Play:
You can play USUM Mix and Mega on its ladder on Pokemon Showdown, or challenge people to matches in its format.

Clauses
Ubers Clauses
Stone / Orb Clause - Teams are limited to one of each Mega Stone / Primal Orb
Overflow Stat Mod - caps stats if it would otherwise pass 654.

Banned Abilities
Shadow Tag

Banned Mega Stones
:beedrillite: Beedrillite, :blazikenite: Blazikenite, :gengarite: Gengarite, :kangaskhanite: Kangaskhanite, :mawilite: Mawilite,:medichamite: Medichamite, :pidgeotite: Pidgeotite

Banned Moves
Baton Pass, Electrify

Pokémon that can't Mega Evolve
Arceus, Shuckle, Deoxys-Attack, Deoxys-Normal, Deoxys-Speed, Dialga, Dragonite, Giratina, Groudon, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, Landorus-Therian, Lugia, Lunala, Marshadow, Mewtwo, Naganadel, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, Palkia, Pheromosa, Rayquaza, Regigigas, Reshiram, Slaking, Solgaleo, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zekrom, Zygarde with Power Construct.
Pokémon on this list are still permitted to hold native Mega Stones/Primal Orbs.

Important Links
Gen 7 Mix and Mega Thread
Gen 7 Mix and Mega Resources
Gen 7 Mix and Mega Viability Rankings
Mix and Mega Damage Calc (by Catalystic)
Mix and Mega Damage Calc (By PociekMociek)

Sample Teams:
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-Zygarde + Entei Bulky Offense by astralydia

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-Tapu Koko Bulky Offense by xavgb

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-Mamoswine Offense by xavgb and Catalystic


-Blissey Balance by In The Hills

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-Palossand Stall by Pigeons
 
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ORAS Mix and Mega


Important Mechanical Changes:
  • Burn deals 12.5% per turn, not 6.25%.
  • Prankster affects Dark-types.
  • Dark Void's accuracy is 80%, and it is not restricted to Darkrai.
  • -ate abilities grant a 1.3x power boost, not 1.2x.
  • Base critical hit rate is 1/16 instead of 1/24.
  • Mega Evolution does not increase the Pokemon's Speed on the turn of Mega Evolving.
  • Destiny Bond does not fail with multiple uses.

How To Play:
ORAS Mix and Mega is not currently playable on the main server, though you can challenge others to it on http://rom.psim.us/

Clauses
Ubers Clauses, Overflow Stat Mod - caps stats if it would otherwise pass 654.

Banned Abilities
Shadow Tag

Banned Mega Stones
:beedrillite: Beedrillite, :gengarite: Gengarite, :kangaskhanite: Kangaskhanite, :mawilite: Mawilite,:medichamite: Medichamite

Banned Moves
Baton Pass, Electrify

Pokémon that can't Mega Evolve
Arceus, Cresselia, Darkrai, Deoxys-Attack, Deoxys-Normal, Deoxys-Speed, Dialga, Dragonite, Genesect, Giratina, Groudon, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, Lucario, Lugia, Manaphy, Mewtwo, Palkia, Rayquaza, Regigigas, Reshiram, Shaymin-Sky, Slaking, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zekrom
Pokémon on this list are still permitted to hold native Mega Stones/Primal Orbs.

Important Links
Gen 6 Mix and Mega Thread
Gen 6 Mix and Mega Viability Rankings
Gen 6 Mix and Mega Sample Teams
Mix and Mega Damage Calc (by Catalystic)
Mix and Mega Damage Calc (By PociekMociek)
 
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