Resource Lost Moves in BDSP

[Teclis]

Lost Moves in BDSP

Hello everyone! To help whoever is going from gen8 to BDSP, here is a list of the moves Pokémon "lost" between SWSH and the remakes due to missing TMs, Move Tutors and the likes. I took the learnsets masterpaste from the original datamine by Kaphotics as well as a list of all the Pokémon that were OU/UUBL/UU in gen8 to come up with it, looking only for the most used moves in competition.

Keep in mind that it should be possible to obtain most of those in the games (= they will made available in competition) once Home compatibility has been implemented in early 2022. It means this disappearance is only temporary unless the moves are not coded into the game to begin with (with in italic those who are not, from a sheet Anubis put together).

Trick
Knock Off, Psyshock
Thunder Punch, Knock Off, High Jump Kick
Teleport
Teleport
Soft-Boiled, Knock Off, Seismic Toss, Psyshock, Teleport
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Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot, Ice Punch
Fire Fang, Scale Shot
Sludge Wave
Bounce, Power Whip
Heavy Slam
Toxic
Iron Head, Stored Power, Trick, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Aura Sphere
Trick, Mystical Fire, Future Sight, Psyshock, Aura Sphere
Trick, Mystical Fire, Future Sight, Psyshock, Aura Sphere
Superpower, Knock Off, Endeavor
Toxic, Mystical Fire, Overheat
Superpower
Weather Ball
Toxic, Ice Punch, Fire Punch, Heat Crash
& Defog, Pain Split, Toxic
Dual Wingbeat, Hurricane
Knock Off, Superpower, Bug Bite
Body Press
Psyshock, Toxic, Teleport
Psyshock, Toxic, Teleport, Dragon Tail
Flip Turn, Toxic, Ice Punch
Toxic, Synthesis
Toxic, Toxic Spikes
Superpower, Toxic (Pursuit still dead :[)
Knock Off, Triple Axel, Low Kick
Hurricane, Weather Ball, Heat Wave

For a more complete list, Kris created a script to get all the viable (according to PS! teambuilder) moves lost in BDSP by Pokémon; here is the result! Please note that this might not be all the moves a Pokémon does not have access to anymore (i.e Gyarados lost Bounce because it could only learn it through Magikarp, which itself lost Bounche), but it remains much more complete than mine. If you are interested by seeing which new moves Pokémon got, I invite you to have a look at this post by chlo.

Feel free to leave a message on my profile if I made any mistake or overlooked something relevant. I'll do my best to add more Pokémon as time goes (and depending on the feedback/whether or not people actually find this useful now that the metagame is out). Enjoy!

 

[Mega-Pokebattlerz]

Weavile's Triple Axel should be in italics like the other IoA tutor moves.

 

[its late atm]

a bunch of mons lost ice punch that had it in dpp. ttar, toxicroak, dragonite and probably others.

 

[xMikasa]

Will Pursuit Ttar be a thing once Pokemon Home releases or what??

 

[Mega-Pokebattlerz]

Will Pursuit Ttar be a thing once Pokemon Home releases or what??

Pursuit was outright removed from the game. It's never coming back.

 

[Emanuel.EXE]

I just want to point out that Shaymin lost Earth Power, Air Cutter, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Round, Snore, Swift, Endeavor, Frustration, Headbutt, Return, Seed Bomb, Zen Headbutt, Tailwind and Toxic. I don't know if I'm missing more moves.

 

[Jeong]

• Garchomp -> Aqua Tail.

• Jirachi -> Bslam, Toxic, Icy Wind.

• Ttar -> Ice Punch, Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, Aqua Tail.

• Zapdos -> Toxic.

 

[Emanuel.EXE]

I've done comparisons in the teambuilder, and Arceus lost:

Physical: Aqua Tail, Frustration, Iron Head, Liquidation, Outrage, Poison Jab, Return, Zen Headbutt

Special: Ancient Power, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Psyshock, Spacial Rend

Status: Hone Claws, Iron Defense, Magic Coat, Refresh, Tailwind, Toxic, Trick

I didn't include moves that appear in "Usually Lost Moves".