National Dex Kommo-o [DONE]

[adem]

[SET]
name: Substitute + Belly Drum
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Belly Drum
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Thunder Punch
item: Salac Berry
ability: Bulletproof
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Belly Drum Kommo-o is a threating sweeper that can clean weakened teams or break holes through teams early-game once boosted. Kommo-o also functions as a soft Greninja and Heatran check on hyper offense teams, although it does have to be careful with its health. However, Kommo-o is extremely reliant on Belly Drum to do significant damage and requires its Salac Berry to be eaten to actually sweep teams due to its low Speed stat. Furthermore, due to how low Kommo-o is left after setting up, it can often be easily killed by a myriad of faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, and Hawlucha, as well as priority from the likes of Rillaboom and Mega Scizor. Substitute allows Kommo-o to setup safely on Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Zapdos, and Rotom-W and avoid status such as Rotom-W's Will-O-Wisp, Toxapex's Toxic, and Ferrothorn's Leech Seed, as well as protecting Kommo-o from attempts to revenge kill it. The combined HP lost from Substitute and Belly Drum allow Kommo-o to instantly activate its Salac Berry. Drain Punch is used over other stronger options like Close Combat because the damage increase isn't needed, and it allows Kommo-o to recover the health lost from setting up. Thunder Punch provides solid coverage alongside Drain Punch, letting Kommo-o nail common Fighting- resistant Pokemon such as Toxapex, Tapu Fini, Zapdos, and Clefable. The given EV spread allows Kommo-o to always consume its Salac Berry after Substitute and Belly Drum. If Kommo-o is being used alongside dual screens, it can run 52 HP EVs to avoid having its Substitute broken by Magnezone's Flash Cannon under Light Screen. Bulletproof is the chosen ability to let Kommo-o setup on the likes of Gyro Ball Ferrothorn, as well as Shadow Ball from Gengar and Blacephalon.

Belly Drum Kommo-o only fits on hyper offense teams due to its one-time setup nature. Dual screens setters such as Tapu Koko and Grimmsnarl are beneficial, as the extra bulk provided gives significantly more setup opportunities for Kommo-o. Tapu Koko in particular is also a solid teammate, as Electric Terrain boosts the damage of Kommo-o's Thunder Punch, letting it score KOs on Pokemon like Clefable, Reuniclus, and Victini when it normally wouldn't. Due to Kommo-o's susceptibility to getting revenge killed by faster threats, Shuckle is a solid partner that can set up Sticky Web for it to outspeed those threats. Hawlucha and Mega Garchomp are exemplary partners for Kommo-o, as they both pressure their shared checks in Landorus-T, Clefable, and Zapdos. Mega Gyarados, Serperior, and Manaphy are stellar partners due to them being able to lure and break Unaware Quagsire and Clefable, which otherwise stonewall Kommo-o. Lastly, Pokemon that can wear down or break Fairy- and Psychic-types such as Mega Scizor, Mega Gyarados, and Volcarona are good partners.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Earthquake is another option over Thunder Punch to pressure Toxapex better, as well as providing better neutral coverage. However, it's unappealing due to Kommo-o's inability to break past Zapdos or KO a healthy Skarmory and Corviknight. An Adamant nature can be used on Sticky Web teams to break past checks like Victini and Gliscor more easily; however, not outspeeding Mega Lopunny outside of Sticky Web makes it a unreliable choice.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Unaware**: Due to how reliant Kommo-o is on its boosts, Unaware Clefable and Quagsire completely ignoring them means they completely stonewall it.

**Revenge Killers**: Faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, Victini, Mega Swampert in rain and Excadrill in sandstorm can easily revenge kill Kommo-o, especially due to how low its HP is after setting up. Meanwhile priority users such as Mega Scizor, Rillaboom, Ash-Greninja, and Weavile can easily revenge kill it, although this can be alleviated with Substitute.

**Physically Bulky Pokemon**: Bulky Pokemon like Reuniclus, Clefable, Mega Latias, and Landorus-T can live a boosted hit from Kommo-o and threaten to KO back due to the low HP Kommo-o is left at.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[adem, 529732]]
- Quality checked by: [[The Dragon Master, 521275], [Solaros & Lunaris, 471780]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Kris, 241023]]

 

[The Dragon Master]

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[SET]
name: Substitute + Belly Drum
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Belly Drum
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Thunder Punch
item: Salac Berry
ability: Bulletproof
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Belly Drum Kommo-o is a threating sweeper that can clean weakened teams or break holes through teams early game once boosted. Mention here that is only to be used on HO and that it can soft check gren, but needs to be careful abt its health However, Kommo-o is extremely reliant on its Belly Drum boost to do significant damage, and also requires its Salac Berry to be eaten to actually sweep teams due to its low Speed stat. Furthermore, due to how low Kommo-o is left after setting up, it can often easily be killed by a myriad of faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, and Hawlucha. it can also be easily revenged by prio Substitute allows it to setup safely on Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Zapdos, and Rotom-W, avoid status such as Rotom-W's Will-O-Wisp and Toxapex's Toxic also avoids ferros leech. The combined HP lost from Substitute and Belly Drum allow Kommo-o to instantly activate its Salac Berry. Drain Punch is used over other stronger options like Close Combat due to the damage increase isnt needed, as well as and it also allows Kommo-o to recover its health lost when setting up. Thunder Punch provides solid neutral coverage alongside Drain Punch, allowing letting Kommo-o to nail common Fighting-type resistant Pokemon such as Toxapex, Tapu Fini, Zapdos, and Clefable. The given EV spread allows Kommo-o to always consume its Salac Berry after Substitute and Belly Drum. Bulletproof is the chosen ability to setup on the likes of Gyro Ball Ferrothorn, and Gengar's and Blacephalon's Shadow Ball.

Mention it shld only be used on HO Dual Screens setters such as Tapu Koko and Grimmsnarl are extremely beneficial, as the extra bulk provided give significantly more setup opportunities for Kommo-o. Tapu Koko in particular is also a solid teammate, as it also boosts the damage of Kommo-o's Thunder Punch, letting it score KOes on Pokemon like Clefable, Reuniclus, and Victini when it normally wouldn't. Due to Kommo-o's susceptibility to getting revenged by faster threats, Shuckle is a solid partner that can set up Sticky Webs for it to outspeed these threats. Hawlucha is an exemplary partner with Kommo-o, as they both pressure each others checks in Landorus-T, Clefable, and Zapdos. Mega Gyarados, Serperior, and Manaphy are stellar partners due to both of them being able to lure and break Unaware Quagsire and Clefable, which otherwise stonewall Kommo-o. mention more mons that can take advantage of stuff like Lando or clef being weakned, as kommo has a tendency to leave them at little HP

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Earthquake is another option instead of Thunder Punch to pressure Toxapex better as well as provide better neutral coverage. However, due to Kommo-o being unable to break past Zapdos, as well as not being able to KO a healthy Skarmory and Corviknight makes it unappealing. mention that ada can be run on webs as it improves rolls against stuff like glis and victini

Checks and Counters
===================

**Pokemon with Unaware**: Due to how reliant Kommo-o is on its boosts, Unaware Clefable and Quagsire completely ignoring them means they completely stonewall it.

**Revenge Killers**: Faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, Victini, as well as Mega Swampert in Rain and Excadrill in Sandstorm can easily revenge kill Kommo-o, especially due to its low HP after setting up. Meanwhile priority users such as Mega Scizor, Rillaboom, Ash Greninja, and Weavile can easily revenge kill it.

mention another section like "mons that can tank a +6 kommo" with stuff like lati, glis, clef, reun, Lando etc
[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[adem, 529732]]
- Quality checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

Well done


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[Darkortex]

I think you should mention at least one or two sets with kommonium-z, the set that's most restricting on the teambuilder and requires the least support to sweep unprepared teams. While fairies can be an issue for it, poison jab chips or removes most of them anyway.

Optionally, you could mention the specially defensive set with stealth rocks as a check to ash-gren, heatran, magnezone, etc.

(I'm not a QC member, so I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post here, but thought I should say this regardless. I was a little suprised to see that just the webs / HO set was listed)

 

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name: Substitute + Belly Drum
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Belly Drum
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Thunder Punch
item: Salac Berry
ability: Bulletproof
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Belly Drum Kommo-o is a threating sweeper that can clean weakened teams or break holes through teams early game once boosted. Kommo-o also functions as a soft Greninja and Heatran check on hyper offense teams, although it does have to be careful with its health. However, Kommo-o is extremely reliant on its Belly Drum boost to do significant damage, and also requires its Salac Berry to be eaten to actually sweep teams due to its low Speed stat. Furthermore, due to how low Kommo-o is left after setting up, it can often easily be killed by a myriad of faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, and Hawlucha, as well as priority from the likes of Rillaboom and Mega Scizor. Substitute allows it to setup safely on Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Zapdos, and Rotom-W, avoid status such as Rotom-W's Will-O-Wisp and Toxapex's Toxic, and Ferrothorn's Leech Seed. It also protects from attempts to revenge kill Kommo-o. The combined HP lost from Substitute and Belly Drum allow Kommo-o to instantly activate its Salac Berry. Drain Punch is used over other stronger options like Close Combat due to the damage increase isnt needed, and it also allows Kommo-o to recover its health lost when setting up. Thunder Punch provides solid neutral coverage alongside Drain Punch, letting Kommo-o nail common Fighting-type resistant Pokemon such as Toxapex, Tapu Fini, Zapdos, and Clefable. The given EV spread allows Kommo-o to always consume its Salac Berry after Substitute and Belly Drum. If Kommo-o is being used alongside dual screens, it can run 52 HP to not have its Substitute broken by Magnezone’s Flash Cannon under Light Screen. Bulletproof is the chosen ability to setup on the likes of Gyro Ball Ferrothorn, and Gengar's and Blacephalon's Shadow Ball.

Belly Drum Kommo-o only fits on hyper offense teams due to its one-time setup nature. Dual Screens setters such as Tapu Koko and Grimmsnarl are extremely beneficial, as the extra bulk provided give significantly more setup opportunities for Kommo-o. Tapu Koko in particular is also a solid teammate, as it also boosts the damage of Kommo-o's Thunder Punch, letting it score KOes on Pokemon like Clefable, Reuniclus, and Victini when it normally wouldn't. Due to Kommo-o's susceptibility to getting revenged by faster threats, Shuckle is a solid partner that can set up Sticky Webs for it to outspeed these threats. Hawlucha and Mega Garchomp are exemplary partners with Kommo-o, as they both pressure their shared checks in Landorus-T, Clefable, and Zapdos. Mega Gyarados, Serperior, and Manaphy are stellar partners due to both of them being able to lure and break Unaware Quagsire and Clefable, which otherwise stonewall Kommo-o. Mention things that can break or wear down Fairy- and Psychic-types, such as Mega Scizor, Mega Gyarados, and Volcarona as good partners.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Earthquake is another option instead of Thunder Punch to pressure Toxapex better as well as provide better neutral coverage. However, due to Kommo-o being unable to break past Zapdos, as well as not being able to KO a healthy Skarmory and Corviknight makes it unappealing. An Adamant nature can be used on Sticky Web teams to break past checks like Victini and Gliscor easier; however, not outspeeding Mega Lopunny outside of Sticky Webs make it a unreliable choice.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Pokemon with Unaware**: Due to how reliant Kommo-o is on its boosts, Unaware Clefable and Quagsire completely ignoring them means they completely stonewall it.

**Revenge Killers**: Faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, Victini, as well as Mega Swampert in Rain and Excadrill in Sandstorm can easily revenge kill Kommo-o, especially due to its low HP after setting up. Meanwhile priority users such as Mega Scizor, Rillaboom, Ash Greninja, and Weavile can easily revenge kill it. Substitute can alleviate this to some degree.

**Pokemon that can tank a boosted hit from Kommo-o**: Pokemon like Reuniclus, Clefable, Mega Latias, and Landorus-T can live a boosted hit from Kommo-o and threaten to KO back due to the low HP Kommo-o is left at.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[adem, 529732]]
- Quality checked by: [[The Dragon Master, 521275], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

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[SET]
name: Substitute + Belly Drum
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Belly Drum
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Thunder Punch
item: Salac Berry
ability: Bulletproof
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Belly Drum Kommo-o is a threating sweeper that can clean weakened teams or break holes through teams early game early-game once boosted. Kommo-o also functions as a soft Greninja and Heatran check on hyper offense teams, although it does have to be careful with its health. However, Kommo-o is extremely reliant on its Belly Drum boost to do significant damage, and also requires its Salac Berry to be eaten to actually sweep teams due to its low Speed stat. Furthermore, due to how low Kommo-o is left after setting up, it can often easily be killed by a myriad of faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, and Hawlucha, as well as priority from the likes of Rillaboom and Mega Scizor. Substitute allows it Kommo-o to setup safely on Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Zapdos, and Rotom-W, avoid status such as Rotom-W's Will-O-Wisp,(AC) and Toxapex's Toxic, and Ferrothorn's Leech Seed, as well as protects protecting Kommo-o from attempts to revenge kill it. The combined HP lost from Substitute and Belly Drum allow Kommo-o to instantly activate its Salac Berry. Drain Punch is used over other stronger options like Close Combat due to because the damage increase isn‘t needed, and it also allows Kommo-o to recover its health lost when setting up. Thunder Punch provides solid neutral coverage alongside Drain Punch, letting Kommo-o nail common Fighting-type resistant Pokemon such as Toxapex, Tapu Fini, Zapdos, and Clefable. The given EV spread allows Kommo-o to always consume its Salac Berry after Substitute and Belly Drum. If Kommo-o is being used alongside dual screens, it can run 52 HP to not have its Substitute broken by Magnezone’s Flash Cannon under Light Screen. Bulletproof is the chosen ability to setup on the likes of Gyro Ball Ferrothorn, and Gengar's and Blacephalon's Shadow Ball.

Belly Drum Kommo-o only fits on hyper offense teams due to its one-time setup nature. Dual Screens setters such as Tapu Koko and Grimmsnarl are extremely beneficial, as the extra bulk provided give significantly more setup opportunities for Kommo-o. Tapu Koko in particular is also a solid teammate, as it also Electric Terrain boosts the damage of Kommo-o's Thunder Punch, letting it score KOes on Pokemon like Clefable, Reuniclus, and Victini when it normally wouldn't. Due to Kommo-o's susceptibility to getting revenged killed by faster threats, Shuckle is a solid partner that can set up Sticky Webs for it to outspeed these threats. Hawlucha and Mega Garchomp are exemplary partners with Kommo-o, as they both pressure their shared checks in Landorus-T, Clefable, and Zapdos. Mega Gyarados, Serperior, and Manaphy are stellar partners due to both of them being able to lure and break Unaware Quagsire and Clefable, which otherwise stonewall Kommo-o. Lastly, Pokemon that can wear down or break Fairy- and Psychic-types such as Mega Scizor, Mega Gyarados, and Volcarona are good partners.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Earthquake is another option instead of Thunder Punch to pressure Toxapex better as well as provide better neutral coverage. However, due to Kommo-o being unable to break past Zapdos, as well as not being able to KO a healthy Skarmory and Corviknight makes it unappealing. An Adamant nature can be used on Sticky Web teams to break past checks like Victini and Gliscor easier; however, not outspeeding Mega Lopunny outside of Sticky Webs make it a unreliable choice.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Pokemon with Unaware**: Due to how reliant Kommo-o is on its boosts, Unaware Clefable and Quagsire completely ignoring them means they completely stonewall it.

**Revenge Killers**: Faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, Victini, as well as Mega Swampert in rain Rain and Excadrill in sandstorm Sandstorm can easily revenge kill Kommo-o, especially due to its low HP after setting up. Meanwhile priority users such as Mega Scizor, Rillaboom, Ash Greninja, and Weavile can easily revenge kill it, although this can be alleviated with Substitute.

**Pokemon that can tank a boosted hit from Kommo-o(maybe make this less wordy?)**: Pokemon like Reuniclus, Clefable, Mega Latias, and Landorus-T can live a boosted hit from Kommo-o and threaten to KO it back due to the low HP Kommo-o is left at.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[adem, 529732]]
- Quality checked by: [[The Dragon Master, 521275], [Solaros & Lunaris, 471780]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

good job!

 

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[SET]
name: Substitute + Belly Drum
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Belly Drum
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Thunder Punch
item: Salac Berry
ability: Bulletproof
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Belly Drum Kommo-o is a threating sweeper that can clean weakened teams or break holes through teams early-game once boosted. Kommo-o also functions as a soft Greninja and Heatran check on hyper offense teams, although it does have to be careful with its health. However, Kommo-o is extremely reliant on Belly Drum to do significant damage, and also requires its Salac Berry to be eaten to actually sweep teams due to its low Speed stat. Furthermore, due to how low Kommo-o is left after setting up, it can often be easily be killed by a myriad of faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, and Hawlucha, as well as priority from the likes of Rillaboom and Mega Scizor. Substitute allows Kommo-o to set up safely on Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Zapdos, and Rotom-W, and avoid status such as Rotom-W's Will-O-Wisp, Toxapex's Toxic, and Ferrothorn's Leech Seed, as well as protecting Kommo-o from attempts to revenge kill it. The combined HP lost from Substitute and Belly Drum allow Kommo-o to instantly activate its Salac Berry. Drain Punch is used over other stronger options like Close Combat because the damage increase isn't needed, and it also allows Kommo-o to recover its health lost whenthe health lost from setting up. Thunder Punch provides solid coverage alongside Drain Punch, letting Kommo-o nail common Fighting-type resistant Pokemon such as Toxapex, Tapu Fini, Zapdos, and Clefable. The given EV spread allows Kommo-o to always consume its Salac Berry after Substitute and Belly Drum. If Kommo-o is being used alongside dual screens, it can run 52 HP to not haveEVs to avoid having its Substitute broken by Magnezone’'s Flash Cannon under Light Screen. Bulletproof is the chosen ability to let Kommo-o set up on the likes of Gyro Ball Ferrothorn, and Gengar'ss well as Shadow Ball from Gengar and Blacephalon's Shadow Ball.

Belly Drum Kommo-o only fits on hyper offense teams due to its one-time setup nature. Dual Sscreens setters such as Tapu Koko and Grimmsnarl are beneficial, as the extra bulk provided gives significantly more setup opportunities for Kommo-o. Tapu Koko in particular is also a solid teammate, as Electric Terrain boosts the damage of Kommo-o's Thunder Punch, letting it score KOes on Pokemon like Clefable, Reuniclus, and Victini when it normally wouldn't. Due to Kommo-o's susceptibility to getting revenge killed by faster threats, Shuckle is a solid partner that can set up Sticky Webs for it to outspeed theose threats. Hawlucha and Mega Garchomp are exemplary partners withfor Kommo-o, as they both pressure their shared checks in Landorus-T, Clefable, and Zapdos. Mega Gyarados, Serperior, and Manaphy are stellar partners due to them being able to lure and break Unaware Quagsire and Clefable, which otherwise stonewall Kommo-o. Lastly, Pokemon that can wear down or break Fairy- and Psychic-types such as Mega Scizor, Mega Gyarados, and Volcarona are good partners.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Earthquake is another option instead ofover Thunder Punch to pressure Toxapex better, as well as provideing better neutral coverage. However, due to Kommo-o being unableit's unappealing due to Kommo-o's inability to break past Zapdos, as well as not being able tor KO a healthy Skarmory and Corviknight makes it unappealing. An Adamant nature can be used on Sticky Web teams to break past checks like Victini and Gliscor easiermore easily; however, not outspeeding Mega Lopunny outside of Sticky Webs makes it a unreliable choice.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Unaware**: Due to how reliant Kommo-o is on its boosts, Unaware Clefable and Quagsire completely ignoring them means they completely stonewall it.

**Revenge Killers**: Faster threats such as Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Tapu Lele, Victini, as well as Mega Swampert in eainrain, and Excadrill in sandstorm can easily revenge kill Kommo-o, especially due to its low HPhow low its HP is after setting up. Meanwhile, priority users such as Mega Scizor, Rillaboom, Ash-Greninja, and Weavile can easily revenge kill it, although this can be alleviated with Substitute.

**Physically Bulky Pokemon that can tank a boosted hit from Kommo-o**: Bulky Pokemon like Reuniclus, Clefable, Mega Latias, and Landorus-T can live a boosted hit from Kommo-o and threaten to KO back due to the low HP Kommo-o is left at.

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