Texas Cloverleaf
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You'll notice if you look at the post I quoted that I was responding to a post claiming they were broken or too good for the metagame using exactly the parameters you've described. Other users have already stated reasons why they should not be banned, and I responded in kind to a post that assumed more than it should have.Every time I read a thread involving banning something, there's always posts like this. "Oh don't ban anything, the meta game is already too old" or "Oh they're not a problem, stop being such a puss" while ignoring paragraphs stating that they are. I have no problem if you have are against banning or what not, but if you're going to object to someone who's talking about banning, actually write out your opinion. It's completely rude, and quite frankly, insulting.