Done Gen 8 CAP Updates - CAP23 - Pajantom

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:pajantom: CAP23: Pajantom Generation 8 Update :pajantom:

Hello! Welcome to the Generation 8 Pajantom update thread. In this thread, we will be updating the movepool of one of our past CAP creations to better match the changes Gamefreak made in Generation 8.

A major change that occurred between this update cycle and the last was to significantly narrow the scope of CAP updates. Abilities, statlines, and typings will not be changed during the course of this update. Only changes to a CAP's movepool will be allowed. Additionally, full movepool changes are also off the table, as the Update Leaders will decide where to distribute moves for their respective Pokemon based off logic and the ICC.

Furthermore, we have defined what type of changes are allowed to movepools, as well as the type of moves up for discussion. Movepool changes will be broken down in two categories: removals and additions. Moves that are subject to removal are those that have been rendered unusable in Sword and Shield, such as Pursuit, and past generation tutors and Technical Machiness that are not available as a Generation 8 Technical Machines or Technical Records. Move that are subject to addition are moves introduced in Sword and Shield and moves that are new Generation 8 Technical Machines or Technical Records. Please make sure that any moves brought up in this thread fall under at least one of these categories.

We have also defined the following considerations for use in evaluating move removals and additions. The foremost consideration is that any change proposed fits both the flavor of the CAP in question and the flavor of Generation 8 as a whole. This means that all changes should follow trends and precedents seen in Generation 8. Intentional buffing and balancing of CAP Pokemon is not the intent of this update cycle. We also wish to avoid the creation of an unbalanced CAP Pokemon. Therefore, the second consideration for move changes is the competitive impact of said changes. Moves that are clearly too powerful will be banned from discussion by the Update Leader.
 
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We are running on a different timeline for these final updates. As you can tell here we are going to be finishing all CAP updates TOMORROW (Friday) from 8am to midnight CST. Big thanks to cbrevan and Reviloja753 for compiling this movepool.

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Red means the move is not in SWSH
Blue means the move would only be available as a pre-Gen 8 transfer move through Pokemon Home
Green moves would be blue, except the move already appears in Level Up or Egg Moves


- Spirit Shackle
- Brave Bird
- Fairy Lock
- Snore
- Wrap
- Astonish
- Growl
6 - Snore
8 - Wrap
10 - Laser Focus
12 - Dragon Rage
17 - Poison Gas
19 - Dragon Breath
23 - Dragon Claw
28 - Toxic Spikes
30 - Heal Block
32 - Psychic Fangs
34 - Dragon Rush
37 - Haze
39 - Spirit Shackle
45 - Phantom Force
53 - Outrage
TM 02 Dragon Claw
TM 06 Toxic
TM 09 Venoshock
TM 10 Hidden Power
TM 15 Hyper Beam
TM 17 Protect
TM 18 Rain Dance
TM 21 Frustration
TM 26 Earthquake
TM 27 Return
TM 28 Leech Life
TM 29 Psychic
TM 30 Shadow Ball
TM 32 Double Team
TM 39 Rock Tomb
TM 40 Aerial Ace
TM 42 Facade
TM 44 Rest
TM 45 Attract
TM 48 Round
TM 59 Brutal Swing
TM 65 Shadow Claw
TM 67 Smart Strike
TM 68 Giga Impact
TM 71 Stone Edge
TM 76 Fly
TM 77 Psych Up
TM 78 Bulldoze
TM 80 Rock Slide
TM 83 Infestation
TM 85 Dream Eater
TM 87 Swagger
TM 88 Sleep Talk
TM 90 Substitute
TM 92 Trick Room
TM 94 Surf
TM 100 Confide
Bind
Block

Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Drill Run
Dual Chop
Gastro Acid
Gravity
Helping Hand
Ice Punch
Icy Wind
Iron Tail
Laser Focus
Outrage
Snore
Spite
Telekinesis

Throat Chop
Zen Headbutt
Egg Groups - Dragon / Monster

Ice Fang (Gyarados, Tyranitar, Avalugg)
Iron Tail (Charizard, Rhyperior, Gyarados, Tyranitar, etc.)
Poison Fang (Salazzle)
Sand Tomb (Flygon, Sandaconda)
Spite (Gyarados, Rhyperior, Tyranitar, Scrafty, Hydreigon)
Whirlpool (Gyarados)
 
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Pajantom has been finished with feedback from our discord!

We've chosen to add Imprison, Breaking Swipe, Hex, Endure, Nasty Plot, and Crunch. Endure was added as its a mandatory move. Crunch was added because of Pajantom's multiple biting moves. Breaking Swipe was added to reference Pajantom's tail with movepool support in the way of Iron Tail. Hex and Imprison are added due to their strong ghost flavor, as was Nasty Plot.

To summarize level up changes, we chose to move Dual Chop from a transferable to the level 12 slot. We also chose to insert Imprison into the lv 30 slot.

On what didn't make the cut, Strength Sap was banned for being insane on a trapper. Fire Fang and Thunder Fang were disallowed due to Pajantom's already considerable physical coverage making both moves unnecessary. Mystical Fire was disallowed after the majority decided that it clashed with Pajantom's movepool, as it lacked Will-O-Wisp and other moves associated with flames. Spirit Break and Jaw Lock were disallowed due to them being exclusive signature moves. Beat Up was disallowed as the flavor reasoning was felt to be weak, since only the projection portion of Pajantom is capable of combat.

Thanks to everyone who chipped in on Discord and here in the thread!

Dual Chop from Past Gen Tutor to level 12 LU
Imprison to level 30 LU and TM/TR
Breaking Swipe to TM/TR
Hex to TM/TR
Endure to TM/TR
Nasty Plot to TM/TR
Crunch to TM/TR
 

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17 hours later and I am FREEEEEEE!!!

1 Brave Bird
1 Fairy Lock
1 Snore
1 Wrap
1 Astonish
1 Growl
6 Double Team
8 Bind
10 Laser Focus
12 Dual Chop
17 Poison Gas
19 Dragon Breath
23 Dragon Claw
28 Toxic Spikes
30 Imprison
32 Psychic Fangs
34 Dragon Rush
37 Haze
39 Spirit Shackle
45 Phantom Force
53 Outrage
Poison Fang (Salazzle)
Spite (Gyarados, Rhyperior, Tyranitar, Scrafty, Hydreigon)
TM04 Ice Punch
TM06 Fly
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM21 Rest
TM22 Rock Slide
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM27 Icy Wind
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM36 Whirlpool
TM39 Facade
TM41 Helping Hand
TM44 Imprison
TM48 Rock Tomb
TM49 Sand Tomb
TM65 Shadow Claw
TM67 Ice Fang
TM70 Trick Room
TM74 Venoshock
TM76 Round
TM77 Hex
TM81 Bulldoze
TM86 Phantom Force
TM96 Smart Strike
TM97 Brutal Swing
TM99 Breaking Swipe
TR04 Surf
TR10 Earthquake
TR11 Psychic
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR24 Outrage
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR32 Crunch
TR33 Shadow Ball
TR47 Dragon Claw
TR54 Toxic Spikes
TR62 Dragon Pulse
TR66 Brave Bird
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR69 Zen Headbutt
TR75 Stone Edge
TR87 Drill Run
TR95 Throat Chop
TR97 Psychic Fangs
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Aerial Ace (Gen 7 TM)
Psych Up (Gen 7 TM)
Infestation (Gen 7 TM)
Dream Eater (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Bind (Gen 7 Tutor)
Block (Gen 7 Tutor)
Gastro Acid (Gen 7 Tutor)
Gravity (Gen 7 Tutor)
Laser Focus (Gen 7 Tutor)
 
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Code:
1 - Brave Bird
1 - Fairy Lock
1 - Snore
1 - Wrap
1 - Astonish
1 - Growl
6 - Double Team
8 - Bind
10 - Laser Focus
12 - Dual Chop
17 - Poison Gas
19 - Dragon Breath
23 - Dragon Claw
28 - Toxic Spikes
30 - Imprison
32 - Psychic Fangs
34 - Dragon Rush
37 - Haze
39 - Spirit Shackle
45 - Phantom Force
53 - Outrage
Egg - Poison Fang
Egg - Spite
TM/TR - Ice Punch
TM/TR - Fly
TM/TR - Hyper Beam
TM/TR - Giga Impact
TM/TR - Rest
TM/TR - Rock Slide
TM/TR - Snore
TM/TR - Protect
TM/TR - Icy Wind
TM/TR - Attract
TM/TR - Rain Dance
TM/TR - Whirlpool
TM/TR - Facade
TM/TR - Helping Hand
TM/TR - Imprison
TM/TR - Rock Tomb
TM/TR - Sand Tomb
TM/TR - Shadow Claw
TM/TR - Ice Fang
TM/TR - Trick Room
TM/TR - Venoshock
TM/TR - Round
TM/TR - Hex
TM/TR - Bulldoze
TM/TR - Phantom Force
TM/TR - Smart Strike
TM/TR - Brutal Swing
TM/TR - Breaking Swipe
TM/TR - Surf
TM/TR - Earthquake
TM/TR - Psychic
TM/TR - Leech Life
TM/TR - Substitute
TM/TR - Outrage
TM/TR - Endure
TM/TR - Sleep Talk
TM/TR - Iron Tail
TM/TR - Crunch
TM/TR - Shadow Ball
TM/TR - Dragon Claw
TM/TR - Toxic Spikes
TM/TR - Dragon Pulse
TM/TR - Brave Bird
TM/TR - Nasty Plot
TM/TR - Zen Headbutt
TM/TR - Stone Edge
TM/TR - Drill Run
TM/TR - Throat Chop
TM/TR - Psychic Fangs
 
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Uhh, Snore, Wrap, Spirit Shackle, Sand Tomb, and Whirlpool are listed twice...
Alright, this was a wild change. Dogfish44 can explain it more adequately, but basically, we need to have four Level 1 moves, and then everything else above it is Heart Scales. If it sounds confusing and dumb, that's because it is. It has something to do with Maractus, apparently. Regardless, we moved Snore and Wrap into those positions. BUT we didn't have Level 6 or 8 moves at that point, so we borrowed from its Transfer moves. Double Team comes in at Level 6 (Pikachu and Snorunt both learn it before Level 10), and Bind works at Level 8 (Clobbopus and Sobble learn it before Level 10). Changes the movepool a little bit, but we thought it kept the general flavor and scheme.

This has all been fixed and edited into the code, including removal of duplicate Spirit Shackle, Sand Tomb, and Whirlpool.
 

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