PU Garbodor [GP 1/1]

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[OVERVIEW]

Garbodor is a passable Spikes user in PU thanks to several unique qualities. For one, its good physical bulk allows it to handle dangerous attackers such as Sneasel and Centiskorch and punish them with Rocky Helmet and Aftermath, while a pure Poison typing lets Garbodor naturally check common Grass- and Fairy-types like Ribombee, Eldegoss, and Whimsicott. Garbodor sets itself apart from Weezing as a defensive Poison-type with Spikes and an overall greater offensive presence, courtesy of its better Speed, stronger attacks, and potential disruptive tools in Toxic Spikes and Corrosive Gas, which lets it slot into fast-paced teams. However, Garbodor is walled by several common Pokemon that resist Gunk Shot and shrug off Stomping Tantrum, such as Jellicent, Archeops, and especially Sandslash, which can threaten it with Earthquake and remove its entry hazards with little issue. Furthermore, Garbodor's lackluster special bulk leaves it vulnerable to powerful special attackers such as Charizard and Wishiwashi. Garbodor also faces immense competition as a Spikes user on offensive teams from Qwilfish and Froslass, as the former is a better pivot thanks to its superior typing, ability, and utility options, while the latter can utilize its Ghost typing and Speed to lay down Spikes nearly unopposed.

[SET]
name: Spiker
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Gunk Shot
move 3: Pain Split
move 4: Stomping Tantrum / Toxic Spikes / Corrosive Gas
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Aftermath
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Pain Split gives Garbodor more longevity to set Spikes, letting it take advantage of checks such as Jellicent that have naturally high HP. Stomping Tantrum gives Garbodor a way to hit Steel- and Rock-types such as Aggron and Gigalith. Alternatively, Toxic Spikes effectively pressures defensive Pokemon such as Quagsire and Regirock and pivots such as Wishiwashi, while Corrosive Gas lets Garbodor remove important items from its checks, most notably Doublade's and Ferroseed's Eviolite. 56 Speed EVs allow Garbodor to outspeed Adamant Aggron. An alternative spread of 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe allows Garbodor to outspeed everything up to offensive Jellicent, giving it more opportunities to set Spikes. Garbodor can also choose to allot some of its Defense EVs into Attack to better pressure its offensive checks; a spread with 132 Attack allows it to OHKO Togedemaru with Stomping Tantrum and 2HKO most Charizard sets with Gunk Shot. Garbodor should be used alongside solid Charizard switch-ins such as Gigalith and Jellicent. Stealth Rock setters, such as the aforementioned Gigalith and Sandaconda, form excellent entry hazard-stacking cores with Garbodor. Garbodor also appreciates partners such as Ribombee and Sneasel that can pressure Sandslash and Hattrem, both of which counter Garbodor and prevent it from setting Spikes.

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[OVERVIEW]

Garbodor is a usable decent Spikes user in PU thanks to several unique qualities. For one, it has access to the valuable Toxic Spikes, which lacks common absorbers and threatens the majority of the tier's pivots and defensive Pokemon should be moved/less emphasis with the set changes. Rocky Helmet and Aftermath allow Garbodor to heavily punish physical attackers such as Sneasel and Centiskorch, and its pure Poison typing allows it to naturally check common Grass- and Fairy-types like Ribombee, Eldegoss, and Whimsicott. However, Garbodor is very passive not the most offensive mon but should use diff wording than passive and easily walled by a plethora of common Pokemon that resist Gunk Shot, such as Jellicent, Archeops, and especially Sandslash, which can threaten Garbodor with Earthquake and spin away its hazards with little issue. Furthermore, Garbodor is easily worn down to due its inability to fit Pain Split, and its lackluster special bulk leaves it vulnerable to powerful special attackers such as Charizard and Wishiwashi. Finally, Garbodor faces immense competition as a Spikes user from Ferroseed and Qwilfish, as they both have better typings, more longevity, and can force switches more easily due to Leech Seed and Taunt, respectively would maybe compare to Froslass instead of Ferroseed given how it's normally on more offensive teams.
what kind of teams is garbodor usually on? how does it compare to weezing?

[SET]
name: Spiker
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Gunk Shot
move 3: Toxic Spikes / Corrosive Gas
move 4: Stomping Tantrum / Corrosive Gas

move 3: Pain Split
move 4: Stomping Tantrum / Toxic Spikes / Corrosive Gas

item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Aftermath
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]

Toxic Spikes effectively pressures defensive Pokemon such as Quagsire and Regirock and pivots such as Wishiwashi move. Stomping Tantrum gives Garbodor a way to hit Steel- and Rock-types such as Aggron and Gigalith. Corrosive Gas can be used to remove important items from Garbodor's checks, most notably Doublade's and Ferroseed's Eviolite move. 56 Speed allows Garbodor to outspeed Adamant Aggron. An alternative spread of 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe allows Garbodor to outspeed everything up to offensive Jellicent, giving it more opportunities to set Spikes. Garbodor should be used alongside solid Charizard switchins such as Gigalith and Jellicent. Stealth Rock setters, such as the aforementioned Gigalith, and Sandaconda, and Regirock, form excellent hazard-stacking cores with Garbodor. Rapid Spin users such as Eldegoss and Sandslash are great partners that can preserve Garbodor's health while keeping its hazards on the field. Garbodor also appreciates partners such as Ribombee and Rotom Sneasel that can pressure Sandslash and Hattrem, both of which counter Garbodor and prevent it from setting Spikes.
include a line for pain split and mention a more offensive spread alternative

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lmk when this is implemented w the set change and ill look again
 

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avarice implemented, anything else I should change before QC?

Just remove the CB Aggron and Scrafty mentions and be a bit more concise with overview and you’re good to go :) -ava
 
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[OVERVIEW]

Garbodor is a decent downgrade to "passable", Garb's really not it right now and I don't expect it to ever become meta unless we ban Sandslash/Gigalith at this rate Spikes user in PU thanks to several unique qualities. For one, its good physical bulk allows it to handle dangerous attackers such as Sneasel and Centiskorch and punish them with Rocky Helmet and Aftermath, while a pure Poison typing lets Garbodor naturally check common Grass- and Fairy-types like Ribombee, Eldegoss, and Whimsicott. Garbodor sets itself apart from Weezing as a defensive Poison-type with Spikes and an overall greater offensive presence, courtesy of its better Speed, stronger attacks, and potential disruptive tools in Toxic Spikes and Corrosive Gas, which lets it slot into fast-paced teams. However, Garbodor is walled by several common Pokemon that resist Gunk Shot and shrug off Stomping Tantrum, such as Jellicent, Archeops, and especially Sandslash, which can threaten it with Earthquake and remove its hazards with little issue. Furthermore, Garbodor's lackluster special bulk leaves it vulnerable to powerful special attackers such as Charizard and Wishiwashi. Finally, Garbodor faces immense competition as a Spikes user on offensive teams from Qwilfish and Froslass, as the former is a better pivot thanks to its superior typing, ability, and utility options, while the latter can utilize its Ghost typing and Speed to lay down Spikes nearly unopposed.

[SET]
name: Spiker
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Gunk Shot
move 3: Pain Split
move 4: Stomping Tantrum / Toxic Spikes / Corrosive Gas
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Aftermath
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Pain Split gives Garbodor more longevity to set Spikes and lets it take advantage of checks such as Jellicent that have naturally high HP. Stomping Tantrum gives Garbodor a way to hit Steel- and Rock-types such as Aggron and Gigalith. Alternatively, Toxic Spikes effectively pressures defensive Pokemon such as Quagsire and Regirock and pivots such as Wishiwashi, while Corrosive Gas can be used to remove important items from Garbodor's checks, most notably Doublade's and Ferroseed's Eviolite. 56 Speed allows Garbodor to outspeed Adamant Aggron. An alternative spread of 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe allows Garbodor to outspeed everything up to offensive Jellicent, giving it more opportunities to set Spikes. Garbodor can also choose to invest in Attack to better pressure its offensive checks; a spread with 132 Attack allows it to OHKO Togedemaru with Stomping Tantrum and 2HKO most Charizard with Gunk Shot. Garbodor should be used alongside solid Charizard switchins such as Gigalith and Jellicent. Stealth Rock setters, such as the aforementioned Gigalith and Sandaconda, form excellent hazard-stacking cores with Garbodor. Rapid Spin users such as Eldegoss and Sandslash are great partners that can preserve Garbodor's health while keeping its hazards on the field. maybe remove this sentence, we love to put down hazard control for everything but this analysis feels a bit long but it's not really exceptionally important for garb and pretty obvious in general Garbodor also appreciates partners such as Ribombee and Sneasel that can pressure Sandslash and Hattrem, both of which counter Garbodor and prevent it from setting Spikes.

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- Written by: [[memesketch, 537558]]
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2/2, I've got basically nothing this is great and should've gone up a while ago, sorry about that
 

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ac = add comma
[OVERVIEW]

Garbodor is a passable Spikes user in PU thanks to several unique qualities. For one, its good physical bulk allows it to handle dangerous attackers such as Sneasel and Centiskorch and punish them with Rocky Helmet and Aftermath, while a pure Poison typing lets Garbodor naturally check common Grass- and Fairy-types like Ribombee, Eldegoss, and Whimsicott. Garbodor sets itself apart from Weezing as a defensive Poison-type with Spikes and an overall greater offensive presence, courtesy of its better Speed, stronger attacks, and potential disruptive tools in Toxic Spikes and Corrosive Gas, which lets it slot into fast-paced teams. However, Garbodor is walled by several common Pokemon that resist Gunk Shot and shrug off Stomping Tantrum, such as Jellicent, Archeops, and especially Sandslash, which can threaten it with Earthquake and remove its entry hazards with little issue. Furthermore, Garbodor's lackluster special bulk leaves it vulnerable to powerful special attackers such as Charizard and Wishiwashi. Finally, Garbodor also faces immense competition as a Spikes user on offensive teams from Qwilfish and Froslass, as the former is a better pivot thanks to its superior typing, ability, and utility options, while the latter can utilize its Ghost typing and Speed to lay down Spikes nearly unopposed.

[SET]
name: Spiker
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Gunk Shot
move 3: Pain Split
move 4: Stomping Tantrum / Toxic Spikes / Corrosive Gas
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Aftermath
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Pain Split gives Garbodor more longevity to set Spikes, (ac) letting and lets it take advantage of checks such as Jellicent that have naturally high HP. Stomping Tantrum gives Garbodor a way to hit Steel- and Rock-types such as Aggron and Gigalith. Alternatively, Toxic Spikes effectively pressures defensive Pokemon such as Quagsire and Regirock and pivots such as Wishiwashi, while Corrosive Gas lets Garbodor remove important items from its checks, can be used to remove important items from Garbodor's checks, most notably Doublade's and Ferroseed's Eviolite. 56 Speed EVs allow allows Garbodor to outspeed Adamant Aggron. An alternative spread of 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe allows Garbodor to outspeed everything up to offensive Jellicent, giving it more opportunities to set Spikes. Garbodor can also choose to invest in Attack to better pressure its offensive checks; a spread with 132 Attack (instead of? I think it's important to specify that here.) allows it to OHKO Togedemaru with Stomping Tantrum and 2HKO most Charizard sets with Gunk Shot. Garbodor should be used alongside solid Charizard switch-ins (added hyphen) such as Gigalith and Jellicent. Stealth Rock setters, such as the aforementioned Gigalith and Sandaconda, form excellent entry hazard-stacking cores with Garbodor. Garbodor also appreciates partners such as Ribombee and Sneasel that can pressure Sandslash and Hattrem, both of which counter Garbodor and prevent it from setting Spikes.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[memesketch, 537558]]
- Quality checked by: [[avarice, 346653], [MZ, 202117]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Sulo, 528036]]
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