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How come Tatsugiri is banned instead of Commander, then? Wouldn't Tatsugiri with Storm Drain be fine, as Commander is the problematic element? How about banning Dark Void instead of Darkrai?
because commander and dark void are signature abilities and moves respectively. Since they are only on one specific pokemon each, we can't just ban the ability without knowing how well it would work on other 'mons
 
Why are fast offensive Pokemon, like Spectrier and Iron Bundle, often more broken in singles than doubles?
Why did the council decide to suspect Basculegion instead of last respects?
 

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Why are fast offensive Pokemon, like Spectrier and Iron Bundle, often more broken in singles than doubles?
Why did the council decide to suspect Basculegion instead of last respects?
Those fast offensive Pokemon typically have pretty low defensive stats. In a format where each player has two Pokemon in play, these glass cannon offensive Pokemon tend to take one knockout and then get swiftly knocked out in return. When this is the best case scenario, these Pokemon don't tend to see a ton of use. These Pokemon can also suffer against speed control; moves like Tailwind, Trick Room, and Icy Wind can expose these Pokemon's low defenses by preventing them from moving first. Protect makes a big difference too - a lot of glass cannons have strong single-target attacks, but don't have strong options for spread damage, and firing a strong single-target move into a Protect puts them in danger.

Deoxys-Attack is legal in BW, XY, and SM DOU, and generally suffers from this problem just as much as things like Spectrier and Iron Valiant. Iron Bundle can carve out a niche for itself as a fast Icy Wind user and generally sees more play than other fast frail Pokemon as a result, and Flutter Mane doesn't really qualify as "frail" with base 135 Special Defense.

Basculegion was suspected because Last Respects isn't broken on every single thing that gets it in DOU. Houndstone is bad, even with Last Respects, and Basc-F isn't awful but isn't broken enough to do anything about (though some may disagree), so Basc-M got the axe rather than Last Respects. While I can't speak for the council, I imagine if Basc-F were suspected tested, Last Respects might be considered instead (and Houndstone can just suck even worse idk).
 
Why are fast offensive Pokemon, like Spectrier and Iron Bundle, often more broken in singles than doubles?
Why did the council decide to suspect Basculegion instead of last respects?
this is because in a doubles metagame, there are 4 pokemon on the field instead of 2. this means you can either get doubled up on, or possibly even get setup on if you make a wrong prediction. just like what arcticblast said, those to mons you talked on are rather frail. spectrier can die to common priority moves like sucker punch(like kingambit), or get outsped by other fast mons flutter mane and chien pao who can threaten it with super effective damage. iron bundle suffers from similar problems, because it's so frail on the special side. because unlike in singles, where base speed is almost everything, you can't abuse your high speed when there are 2 mons on the opponents side. doubles games also last a much shorter amount of time, which means trickroom and tailwind can be fully abused, because you have 1 other mon to gain immediate advantage from instead of have to switch out. tailwind in particular slashes both spectrier's and bundle's niches as fast wallbreakers, because now the opponent who has tailwind up can now out speed both of them with otherwise slower pokemon.

edit: why did the council decide to ban basc-m instead of last respects? only the council knows of course, but i do have a guess. basc-f and houndstone aren't actually any good at all, even with last respects. while they both have speed boosting abilities in weather, both of them are countered by priority moves, mainly sucker punch(kingambit(and/or chien pao) go brrrrrr). both of them also have weak attack stats with basc-f only have 92(good luck hitting for 20% on non-supereffective hits with aqua jet), and houndstone doing a little better with 101. they are only going to hit hard with last respects, but that doesn't even fix their problems of having weak stats.
 
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If you side beat up a mon, will that mon get 6 hits (including itself) or just 5 (which makes sense cause otherwise you're smacking yourself).
 

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If you side beat up a mon, will that mon get 6 hits (including itself) or just 5 (which makes sense cause otherwise you're smacking yourself).
You get one hit of Beat Up for each non-fainted Pokemon without a status condition (paralysis, sleep, burn, freeze, poison). So in ordinary circumstances where everything is healthy, Beat Up will hit six times if you target your ally or your opponent.
 
What niche does Diancie have in the tier? This is coming from someone who doesn't play the tier a lot, so I'm just wondering how I could fit it onto teams since it is ranked DOU.
 

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What niche does Diancie have in the tier? This is coming from someone who doesn't play the tier a lot, so I'm just wondering how I could fit it onto teams since it is ranked DOU.
Diancie is one of the best offensive Trick Room setters. It’s able to use its great bulk (as well as multiple good Tera type options) to set Trick Room, then it has an incredible move in Diamond Storm that is 100 base power, hits both foes, and can raise its defense very quickly. This means that it’s capable of beating most physical attackers. Diancie frequently gets to +4 or +6 defense boosts, which then allows it to use Body Press for massive damage - especially on steel types. Clear Body also allows its attack to not be lowered, meaning it can just spam Diamond Storms.

You can also run items like weakness policy on it so that Diancie can take advantage of getting hit by a super effective move (which it often lives, either by defense boosts or just its great bulk).

Here’s a replay that gives a good example:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublesou-2022571933?p2
 

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