Pet Mod Döppelgangers v2

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Whew... a LOT of time has passed since this mod was active. but that period of time won't last for long! because, Doppelgängers will get a new slate! (and possibly other ones too, that's the goal)

I asked EeveeGirl for permission to revive the mod, and I gladly and happily can say it was accepted! Gravity Monkey will also continue to be on the council along with EeveeGirl and me, and the mod won't receive any changes. this was only made because the activity was very low, and the mod had to get something going. but enough of this talk, what you want to really get is a slate. and a slate you shall receive!

:swsh/zapdos-galar::swsh/victini::swsh/volcanion:

Being somewhat recent threats on the SS OU metagame, these mons, one Physical, one Mixed, one Special respectively, all have really good traits that make them tear apart specific Pokémon in the meta, with mons like Victini luring Landorus-T in, and then using Glaciate, and G-Zap / Volcanion brute-forcing their way through the Sword & Shield OverUsed format. I am really excited for what you will do with them, and let's wish for a good rebirth of the amazing metagame of Doppelgängers!​
 

Bobsican

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:zapdos-galar:

Pokémon: Anti-Zapdos-Galar
Type: Electric/Poison
Ability: Levitate
Stats: 91 / 90 / 100 / 100 / 90 / 109 (580 BST)
New moves: Thunderbolt, Thunder, Volt Switch, Corrosive Gas, Toxic, Sludge, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Poison Jab, Venoshock, Wild Charge, Clear Smog, Discharge, Thunder Wave, Roost, Hurricane, Defog, Magnet Rise, Charge Beam, Electroball, Charge
Removed moves: All other Fighting and Flying type moves
Description: A solid typing alongside Levitate ensures this can withstand any attack a banded G-Zapdos can do against this after SR by just investing 248 EVs on HP, packing a good speed tier to also outspeed and chunk it hard with Volt Switch if it chooses to stay to pivot itself with U-Turn. Beyond that it acts as a solid Defogger as it's immune to most hazards and takes neutral damage from SR, bonus points from also being a bulky Poison type that can also spread status to wear the opposing team, most notably hazard setters, of which this has a good match-up against out of Levitate and a single effective weakness to Psychic.

252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Anti-Zapdos-Galar: 143-168 (37.1 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

0 SpA Anti-Zapdos-Galar Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zapdos-Galar: 164-194 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


:Victini:

Pokémon: Anti-Victini
Type: Fire/Dragon
Ability: Limber
Stats: 101 / 127 / 88 / 100 / 83 / 101 (600 BST)
New moves: Dragon Claw, Draco Meteor, Outrage, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Tail, Dragon Rage, Soft-Boiled, Fire Lash, Knock Off
Removed moves: All Psychic type moves, V-Create, Bolt Strike, Fusion Bolt, Blue Flare, Searing Shot
Description: A Fire/Dragon typing not only gives it a nearly unresisted STAB combination, it also ensures Anti-Victini can't 3HKO from a Banded V-Create under sun while also backing with an Electric resistance to avoid concerns on Bolt Strike, Soft-Boiled comes as solid backup to keep doing this across a match, and even comes with just a bit more HP than Victini to ensure it can't be easily OHKO'd by Final Gambit. Limber even helps to avoid being paralyzed, which is relevant as Victini can elect to run TWave, and can keep pressuring it out with a solid combination of Fire Lash + Knock Off, wearing it down and forcing progress as the match goes.

252 Atk Choice Band Victini V-create vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Anti-Victini in Sun: 108-127 (26.6 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Choice Band Victini Zen Headbutt vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Anti-Victini: 127-151 (31.3 - 37.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

0 Atk Anti-Victini Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 172-204 (50.4 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Anti-Victini Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. -1 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 258-304 (75.6 - 89.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

:Volcanion:

Pokémon: Anti-Volcanion
Type: Water/Poison
Ability: Levitate
Stats: 90 / 110 / 100 / 120 / 120 / 60 (600 BST)
New moves: All Poison type moves Toxapex gets but Baneful Bunker, Milk Drink
Removed moves: All Fire type moves
Description: Solid bulk and typing means it resists everything Volcanion can do to it, even packing a Poisoning immunity to avoid being easy to wear doen, and Levitate also extends this to hazards, thus also acting as a decent defogger combined with the longevity granted by Milk Drink.
Beyond that, it packs a solid 120 SpA, so it can chunk away the opposing team fairly well, including also the act of spreading status to make the job of its teammates easier.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Steam Eruption vs. 0 HP / 72 SpD Anti-Volcanion: 118-140 (36.7 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Anti-Volcanion Sludge Bomb vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Volcanion: 151-178 (41.5 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
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:ss/zapdos-galar:
Name: Anti-Zapdos-Galar
Type: Fairy
Abilities: Contrary
Stats: 100/75/90/125/80/110 (BST: 580)
New Moves: Dazzling Gleam, Fairy Wind, Moonblast, Play Rough, Roost
Removed Moves: Acrobatics, Agility, Bounce, Brave Bird, Brick Break, Bulk Up, Coaching, Counter, Detect, Drill Peck, Dual Wingbeat, Fly, Peck, Pluck, Quick Guard, Superpower, Thunderous Kick
Description: Anti-Gapdos uses Contrary CC & a great stab move in Moonblast to deal good damage. It also has Hurricane as coverage but mostly enjoys these calcs:
4 SpA Anti-Zapdos-Galar Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zapdos-Galar: 270-320 (84.1 - 99.6%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Close Combat vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Anti-Zapdos-Galar: 73-87 (18 - 21.5%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Brave Bird vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Anti-Zapdos-Galar: 147-174 (36.3 - 43%) -- 97.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

:ss/victini:
Name: Anti-Victini
Type: Fire/Electric
Abilities: Pressure
Stats: 100/100/100/100/100/100 (BST: 600)
New Moves: Knock Off, Recover
Removed Moves: Glaciate
Description: Victini can only 3 hit ko this with V-Create, but this can ohko Victini with Knock off or 2 hit with Bolt Strike. Anti-Victini also outlives Victini due to healing in Recover. Pressure annoys Victini a lot because almost all the moves it runs have 8 PP which can be depleted with some effort, leaving Victini severly crippled.

:ss/volcanion:
Name: Anti-Volcanion
Type: Rock/Flying
Abilities: Water Absorb
Stats: 130/80/110/70/130/90 (BST: 600)
New Moves: Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Air Cutter, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Bounce, Brave Bird, Drain Punch, Drill Peck, Fly, Gust, Head Smash, Heal Bell, Hurricane, Power Gem, Rock Blast, Rock Polish, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Roost, Stealth Rock, Surf
Removed Moves: Fire Spin, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Heat Crash, Incinerate, Liquidation, Mist, Overheat, Scald, Solar Beam, Steam Eruption, Sunny Day, Water Gun, Will-O-Wisp
Description: Anti-Volcanion beats Volcanion by resisting or being immune to all of its moves via typing and ability + being very bulky. It also hits Volcanion hard with rock moves & has utility with Defog, Haze, Heal Bell, Stealth Rock, & Toxic. Anti-Volcanion is very bulky so Roost is a bit dangerous, but Rock/Flying is a below average defensive typing and it has fairly bad offenses. Also, why doesn't Volcanion get Surf?
 
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:ss/volcanion:
Pokemon: Anti-Volcanion
New Stats: 90/120/100/90/120/80 (600)
Typing: Dragon/Flying
Ability: Guts
New Moves: Outrage, Dragon Dance, Draco Meteor, Dragon Hammer, Breaking Swipe, Twister, Dragon Pulse, Air Cutter, Aerial Ace, Bounce, Fly, Hurricane, Tailwind
Removed Moves: Fire Spin, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Heat Wave, Overheat, Will-O-Wisp, Liquidation, Scald, Steam Eruption, Water Gun, Water Pulse
Calcs:
Attack

Choice Banded and Poisoned
252+ Atk Choice Band Guts Volcanion Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 434-512 (119.5 - 141%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Choice Banded
252+ Atk Choice Band Anti-Volcanion Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 290-342 (79.8 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Anti-Volcanion Outrage vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 261-307 (71.9 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Anti-Volcanion Fly vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 195-231 (53.7 - 63.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Poisoned
252+ Atk Guts Anti-Volcanion Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 290-342 (79.8 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Normal
252+ Atk Anti-Volcanion Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 194-230 (53.4 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Anti-Volcanion Outrage vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 174-205 (47.9 - 56.4%) -- 86.3% chance to 2HKO

Defense
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Steam Eruption vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Volcanion: 126-149 (39.1 - 46.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Sludge Wave vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Volcanion: 146-172 (45.3 - 53.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Volcanion's biggest weakness (besides Blissey and Chansey) is dealing with Dragons, since it has no super-effective moves against them. The additional Flying type is to avoid Earth Power, so now Volcanion must predict to use Sludge Wave or not. Pairing Anti-Volcanion with a Steel type would make Specs Volcanion have an absolute nightmare. Guts is for in case of Toxic/Will-O-Wisp sets (WoW is not a set but yk, you never know). Anti-Volcanion also has Dragon Dance if it doesn't wanna rely on Choice Band.

the other two coming soo maybe i spent too much time on this help
 

Pokemon: Anti Volcanion
New Stats: 80 HP / 120 Atk / 70 Def / 130 SpA / 140 SpD / 60 Spe [BST: 600]
Typing:

Ability: Steam Engine
New Moves: Morning Sun
Removed Moves: Defog

Notable Moves: Endure, Steam Eruption, Earth Power, Sludge Wave, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Morning Sun, Toxic, Will-o-Wisp, Scald
Notable Items: :heavy-duty boots: Heavy-Duty Boots, :weakness policy: Weakness Policy

Defensive Calcs:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Steam Eruption vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Volcanion: 220-261 (73 - 86.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Volcanion: 45-53 (14.9 - 17.6%) -- possible 6HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Volcanion: 128-151 (42.5 - 50.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Volcanion: 242-286 (80.3 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Offensive Calcs:
+2 252+ SpA Volcanion Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Volcanion: 466-550 (128.3 - 151.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 0 Atk Volcanion Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 730-860 (102.2 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(much stronger than Focus Blast and works well in tandem with its Weakness Policy sets)
+2 252+ SpA Volcanion Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Fini: 362-428 (105.2 - 124.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Description: Anti Pokemon are meant to be checks against a base Pokemon. The thing is, I thought it was starting to get boring how every Anti Pokemon that gets subbed is usually (no shame as its the safest option) a defensive check, but there aren't many offensive checks. I think it would be cool to try working with an offensive anti variant this time around. Volcanion has two main STABs both of which can activate Steam Engine. Steam Engine can be used to dramatically increase Anti-Volc's speed to outspeed and KO Volcanion, or bait an Earth Power by using Morning Sun and tank a hit for Weakness Policy. I think weakness policy and Steam Engine can maximize its offensive capabilities, especially against Volcanion which players running may not suspect Weakness Policy. The Pokemon can still activate its item/abilities through the cores within opposing teams. Pokemon like Tapu Fini and Tapu Koko may have to be cautious when attacking, and Tapu Fini cannot spam Scald as much while it is present.
 
slightly late veto post

:ss/zapdos-galar:
Name: Anti-Zapdos-Galar
Type: Ground/Fairy
Abilities: Contrary
Stats: 100/75/90/125/80/110 (BST: 580)
New Moves: Dazzling Gleam, Earthquake, Earth Power, Fairy Wind, Moonblast, Play Rough, Roost, Scorching Sands
Removed Moves: Acrobatics, Agility, Bounce, Brave Bird, Brick Break, Bulk Up, Coaching, Counter, Detect, Drill Peck, Dual Wingbeat, Fly, Peck, Pluck, Quick Guard, Superpower, Thunderous Kick
Description: Anti-Gapdos uses Contrary CC & Nearly unresisted stabs in Earth Power & Moonblast to deal strong damage. It can also run Scorching Sands to fish for burns. It also has Ancient Power & Hurricane as coverage but mostly enjoys these calcs:
4 SpA Anti-Zapdos-Galar Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zapdos-Galar: 270-320 (84.1 - 99.6%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Close Combat vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Anti-Zapdos-Galar: 73-87 (18 - 21.5%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Brave Bird vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Anti-Zapdos-Galar: 147-174 (36.3 - 43%) -- 97.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers
This seems very strong. Fairy/Ground typing is very good offensively, especially with the high speed and special attack on this Pokémon. Coupled with it’s high bulk, access to roost, and strong STAB moves means it has to be vetoed. Some changes that could be put are removal of Ground moves (zapdos-g is immune to it anyway, so it won’t do much as a counter), lowering speed (by a lot), or just getting rid of the ground type (not exactly sure what it does for it defensively or offensively).

that should be it for now! about 24 hours to fix vetoes and maybe sub if you want!
 

ViZar

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:zapdos-galar: PalpitoadChamp, Bobsican
:victini: Bobsican, PalpitoadChamp
:volcanion: PalpitoadChamp, lavarina, Bobsican
 

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:Zapdos-galar: PalpitoadChamp, Bobsican
:Victini: Bobsican, PalpitoadChamp
:Volcanion: lavarina, abismal, PalpitoadChamp
 

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