(doublepostng but his idea could work even better as it also rewards hosting INDIVIDUAL tours, not just team tours; as in, after you host X number of tours successfully you should be able to request a CA as a prize instead of letting you use random CAs, or having the choice of using one of the team tour ones, if you hosted one)
As someone that's hosted a lot of individuals, live and not live, I think CC is adequate. Or if hosting individuals gives "points" towards getting a CA beyond getting CC, then so should other forms of contribution on the site that don't and the new CA points system would have to be rethought entirely. There's a huge divide between hosting team tours and individuals.
We all talk all the time about how hosting is a thankless job that nobody wants to do, let's give em a reason to do it and a little reward for doing a good job
This is just my personal experience so take it (or don't take it) for what it's worth, but a CA would've done nothing about how bitter I was after being a cohost for SPL XII, and if anything it feels like the difference between thanking your friend for throwing a party and thanking your friend for throwing a party, then slipping them a $20 bill on your way out. One's cool, the other's weird, except at least $20 is 2 weeks of nicotine vaporizer supply.
If giving a CA to trophy (it should be limited to trophy) team tours is going to happen, though, then it should be something along the lines of what Isaiah posted. Or make a generic Hosting Hitmontops avatar and give it to all of them
i guess to expand on this post:
why individuals shouldn't be lumped into this:
we recently just revamped
how to get a CA through smogon contribution. hosting individuals is rewarded through CC - that's your progression to a custom avatar. there are very few avenues of contribution grant you a custom avatar by itself; off the top of my head it's
- sim admin, supermod/admin, and researcher
everyone else (team raters, tutors, c&c ppl, everything else that happens on the site) either needs to attain a community leadership level of contribution or contribute in multiple avenues. tournament hosting can be difficult, but i think it's pretty clear that it falls in the "everyone else" category rather than the "sim admin/supermod/admin/researcher" category.
the alternative is that the "everyone else" category has avenues to earn a CA without diversifying their contribution/attaining community leadership position, but im pretty sure that wont happen so...
why unofficial/circuit/subforum team tournament hosting shouldn't be lumped into this:
it's hard to describe the level of weight and stress that goes into hosting trophy team tournaments, but put most succinctly:
- unofficial/circuit/subforum team tournament hosts reference trophy team tournament decisions as precedent for their tours
- trophy team tournament hosts don't reference nontrophy team tournaments as precedent
i was the first host of coronavirus PL I, which if you dont know is essentially an SPL where each "week" is actually 1 day. so not only were the same guidelines in effect, there was also a significantly shorter time limit to deal with issues as they come up.
hosting spl xii was so much more stressful than that because you are setting the gold standard for how the rules are interpreted in team tournaments. not only are you hosting that tournament, you're hosting 981274827417 other ones by proxy.
this is what makes trophy team tour hosting uniquely "thankless" to what is already a universally thankless job. every host gets treated terribly by xX_Charizard_Devourer_Xx who really wants an extension after missing the scheduled time twice in Gen 9 Pure Hackmons OU Blitz summer seasonal, but nobody really cares if you actually do give them the extension. i think ignoring this factor and lumping in all team tournament hosting together misunderstands why hosting is a thankless job in the first place.