| Smogon Username | Celesteela: Drop from S to A+ | Tapu Fini: Drop from S to A+ | Zapdos: Raise from A+ to S | Naganadel: Drop from A+ to A | Nihilego: Drop from A+ to A | Glastrier: Drop from A+ to A/A-/B+ | Metagross: Drop from A- to B+ | Lapras: Drop from A to B+ or lower? | Snorlax: Drop from A- to B+ or lower? | Raikou: Drop from A- to B+ or lower? | Heatran: Drop from A to A- | Dragonite: Drop from A to A- | Salamence: Drop from A to A- | Regieleki: Drop from A to A- | Moltres (Galar): Drop from A to A-/B+ | Swampert: Raise from A- to A | Urshifu (Rapid Strike): Raise from A- to A | Garchomp: Raise from B+ to A- | Cresselia: Raise from B+ to A- | Urshifu (Single Strike): Raise from B+ to A/A- | Dracovish: Raise from B to B+/A-/A | Spectrier: Raise from B to B+/A- | Tyranitar: Raise from B to B+/A- | Excadrill: Raise from B to A- | Mamoswine: Raise from B to B+/A- | Zapdos (Galar): Raise from B- to B | Chansey: Raise from C to B- | Rotom (Mow): Drop from C to UR | Uxie: Rank from UR to C | Moltres: Rank from UR to C | Quagsire: Rank from UR to C | Ninetales (Alola): Rank from UR to C/C+/B- | Tapu Bulu: Rank from UR to C | Ferrothorn: Raise from A- to A | Toxapex: Raise from B+ to A- |
| Psynergy | A+ | A+ | S | A | A+ | A | A- | B+ | B+ | B | A- | A- | A- | A- | B+ | A- | A | B+ | A- | A | A | B | A- | A- | B | B- | B- | C | C | C | C+ | C+ | C | A | A- |
| marilli | Yes (A+) | Yes (A+) | Yes (S) | Yes (A), or lower (A-) if possible. This thing is not better than Dragonite. | Yes (A) | Yes (A-) | Yes (B+) | Yes (B+) | Yes (B) | Yes (B) | Yes (A-) | Yes (A-) | Yes (A-), more strongly about this than Dragonite. | Yes (A-) | Yes (B+) | No (A-) | Yes (A) | No (B+) | Yes (A-) | Yes (A) | Yes (A) | No (B) | Yes (B+) | Yes but no (B+) | No (B) | No (B-) | Yes (B-), my nom | Uh i really don't give a shit | Yes (C) | Yes (C) | Yes (C) | Yes (C+) | Yes (C) | Yes (A), my nom | Yes (A-) |
| 1tp | Drop (A+ only, not to A thats too much for me atm in one slate) | Drop A+ | Rise S | Drop A | Keep A+ | Drop A, could be swayed to A- but B+ is a joke for an absolute stat abuser | Drop B+ | Drop B+ | Drop B+ | Drop B+ | Drop A- | Drop A- | Drop A- | Drop A- | Drop B+ | Drop B+ | Keep A- | Keep B+ | Rise A- | Rise to A | Rise to A-, I suspect pult will start bullying it quite soon so lets not get too out of hand with a full letter rise, if it stays its current viability A would make sense) | Stay B | Rise A- | Rise A- | Stay B (could be swayed to B+) | Stay B- or Drop to C+ | Rise to B- | Drop to UR | Keep UR | Rise to C | Rise to C | Rise B- | Keep UR | Split on this, I'll say A for now | Rise A- |
| Greilmercenary9 | A+; Cele is a victim of its own success in many ways--one of these best mons when left unchecked, but it is both weak to other good mons in this meta and also dangerous enough that most meta teams are drastically overpreparing for it | A+; Extremely effective and with just enough diversity to still catch an opponent off guard with sets like Scarf or tech moves. However, not quite in the same stratosphere as a couple of the other mons. | S; Zapdos has adapted to the early Crown Tundra meta with a deftly adept expertise that I didn't expect from it going in; the offensive sets are great on their own, but the diversification of effective Zapdos sets and an effective matchup spread against most of the rest of the top 10 make it a top 3 mon for now | A; still very good but the early meta shifts have been a bit annoying for it | A+; The undisputed winner in this generation's Meteor Beam sweepstakes, the Power Herb set is not only definitive for Nihi but makes it incredibly dangerous with a good enough speed tier and extremely strong special firepower. Also benefits from being one of the best answers to meta darling Zapdos. | A; Glast is very strong--especially so in TR--but has issues in exploiting its stats to the fullest in this meta without a lot of support. Its matchup spread is fair but not super elite, which hurts it when using it out of TR, and TR support is back to S5 levels of annoying to setup in many cases in this meta. | B+; I think Meta is a fair pick, but it suffers from some of the problems Glast does without having quite as intriguing of a matchup and stat spread. Also very much not helped by Cinderace, Zapdos, and Landorus being three of the four best mons (if not just the three best mons) in the meta. | B+; power creep compared to S4 is a jerk... anyway, Resonance is still broken but Lapras as a overall mon is struggling more and more here, and it shows | B+; Snorlax is still bulky and a huge annoyance, but while Custap offensive sets are potentially amusing with GMax Replenish, it otherwise struggles to break things down as effectively as before with the power creep of this series. Yawn shenanigans are also useful and it has a different matchup spread than Hippowdon, but McDonald's tends to be better at slowing down most of the meta's top threats and is also just generally better at the role to begin with. | B+; Raikou is very interesting but it's usage is struggling a bit in early Season 13; being a naturally fast CM user is a great boon, but it's still slower than Cinderace and suffers in a general sense from teams being required to check Zapdos already. | A-; I think this is a close one, but Tran has suffered somewhat in this meta with Naga starting to struggle a little, Mimikyu often running SE coverage for it that does a ton, Ace and Lando generally giving it major problems, and some old stuff that it used to beat no longer being troubled by its old Toxic sets. AV and Magma Storm sets are both still effective, but the lack of Toxic and issues with meta developments like P2 and Zap often being able to beat it now makes it a little iffy for full A IMO. | A; *very* close call but Multiscale and insane coverage both help this, as does fair set versatility; probably the better dragon between it and Mence right now | A-; I think Mence right now is better in theory than in practice. It's still a huge threat, but being weak to Rocks is as frustrating as ever in a meta where two of the hyper elite mons are weak to them, and having to choose between Moxie snowballing potential and Intimidate support is annoying. Like with Raikou above though, it also suffers partly from teams already being required to check similar mons to it anyway, and while Wingbeat definitely helps matters by giving it more spammable STAB, it also has severe issues with matchup spread vs the top mons here. | A-; The best screen setter in the meta IMO, but after that it comes with significant limitations. Offensive Eleki is still a fair threat in its own right and shouldn't be dimissed out of hand, but between Ground types ruining its day and Eleki dying to any reasonably strong attack there are limits to how far that can go. | A; I think this is still one of the biggest surprises of the meta, and while people have learned to play around it, it's still surprisingly good IMO. It does suffer quite a bit from a bad matchup vs Zapdos and also some Zapdos checks, but it has a decent enough matchup spread against most other mons and the tools to take advantage of being sent out in a good spot. | A-; Interesting Rocks + Yawn user with a different matchup spread than Hippo, but a bit less effective at it than McDonald's and also suffers from a bit more random Grass coverage floating around. | A-; Ursh is really good but the matchup spread vs the top 10 isn't all sunshine and rainbows here, with it needing Scarf to beat an unboosted Ace, losing to Zap, issues with Fini, etc. However, it does carry strong offensive value, and guaranteed multi-hit crits are great, so this is a close one but still A- for now IMO. | B+; On the fence with this one so either is fine with me; a little sketchy about this being B+ if Swamp is higher since Chomp itself has some tools to differentiate itself as an interesting Rocks lead, but for the moment I'll give Swamp benefit of the doubt due to Yawn + Flip Turn. As for Chomp, it still provides good offensive pressure and isn' a bad mon in general, but the matchup spread against the top mons is very rough and it struggles to stand out vs both Lando-T and the other top Dragon type threats. | B+ | A- | A; Vish has been resurrected by a new meta where it actually synergizes much better with the top mons (and has a much better matchup spread) than it ever has before; combine with the potential to also run surprise Sand Rush sets for profit. | B | B+; Dropped off quite a bit at the start of S7 but resurged once Zapdos answers became a premium resource | B+; I think Excadrill has some tools that help it navigate the new meta maybe better than we expected, but they take some digging to uncover. That said, a strong usage rate on very high ladder teams gives me optimism that this might eventually make it back to something like A- as the meta continues to develop. | B | B- | B- | UR | UR | C | C | C | C | A; This one takes some explanation, because it's a rare mon that can get easily torpedoed by the top two mons in the meta right now (as well as having major issues vs Cele, Ursh, etc), but thus are the times we live in. The resurrection of strong Vish viability has made carrying an answer for it vital, and Ferro also carries a positive matchup spread against most of the rest of the top 10 besides Ace and Zapdos. In a RPS triangle this is definitely the one that covers the problems that the top mons of the day might have, covering annoyances like Tapu Fini, Mimikyu (although Drain + Kee has made this harder), and so on, as well as having just enough moveset flexibility to call out counters with stuff like Iron Defense or Knock Off as well. IMO this mon is one that is hard to use right now but also carries a strong payoff if you can manage to do so effectively. | A-; Very close but cushions are valuable right now, as are Ace answers, and is one of the most vital components of some bulky cycling cores |
| dw | A | A+ | S | A | A+ | A- | A- | B | B+ | A- | A- | A | A- | A | A- | A | A | B+ | A- | A | A | B | A | B+ | B+ | B | B- | UR | C | C | C | C+ | UR | A | A- |
| Theorymon | A+: Mainly because teams are really going hard into countering this mofo. | A+: With the rise of Zapdos, I think Tapu Fini being A+ fits. | S: Yes, this thing dominates | A: Sure, I think Naganadel was a bit overhyped again. | A+: No, this still is really deadly. | A: I think a drop to A is fine because Glastrier requires team support to really shine. It has a successful archetype around it though so I wouldn't drop it lower. | A-: This isn't as good as Glastrier per se, but it also requires less support and is a good Dynamaxer still. | B+: I think B+ fits the drop in usage and prominence with Zapdos around. | B+, this thing has not recovered usage wise at all, and the strong fightng stab mons continue to stick around. | B+: Probably a bit overhyped, but Scald is still incredible on an Eelctric-type so I wouldn't go any lower. | A-: The rise of Dracovish really sucks for Heatran, and plenty of TTar run EQ too. | A: This is still a great sweeper, especially now that special sets show it can diversify. | A-: I think Salamence is worse than Dragonite atm, but its still a major sweeper! | A-: I actually really love Regieleki as an offensive threat, but its hard to deny that it does compete with Zapdos. Dual Screens is still super lit tho even though its not used as much as offensive on cart now. | A-: A- fits because its best with dual screens, but Moltres is still one hell of a Dynamax sweeper. | A: It's a great alternative to Hippowdon, so I support! | A: A- was sorta too harsh for this thing anyways, it's still one of the best offensive water-types around. | A-: This might be a bit of a hot take with its slight drop in usage, but Scale Shot is super cool and gives it a nche over Landorus-T. I also appreciate that it doesn't get nuked by Nihilego compared to Landorus-T. | A-: Cresselia is one of the best bulky CMers out there, and is a core part of Glastrier TR teams, so it deserves a raise! | A-: I still think Urshifu-R is usually better, but I can't deny that Urshfu-S dunks Cresselia really hard which is currently wonderful. | A-: Maybe a bit of a kneejerk reaction, but Dracovish has great match ups against a lot of threats atm, so I think it's at least worth A-. I'm fine with A too however. | B: Spectrier has gotten even rarer recently. It could be good but unexplored, but I have yet to see anything indicating it can get over its well-known issues. | A-: The 4x fighting weak suck hard atm, but Tyranitar is a great Zapdos and Galarian Moltres check right now, it deserves a big payraise for that! | A-: With Tyranitar coming back up, Sand Rush Excadrill has shown that it's still pretty damn good even with Landorus-T waltzing around. | B+: Mamoswine does have some serious issues against stuff such as Celesteela if it sticks with sash, but it smacks a lot of common mons hard so I think B+ fits. | B-: I think people caught on this season that Galarian Zapdos isn't that great. It's usable for sure, but Zapdos is just plain better. | B-: C is probably too harsh. Blissey is better in a lot of cases, but Chansey's better physical bulk can't be ignored imo. | UR: Rotom-C has seen better days, I don't think it's a good fit on any team atm. | C: It gets Yawn and Stealth Rock and good bulk, that's good enough for me to think it should be rated. It also gets neat stuff like Memento and U-turn! | C: If we rank Charizard, I think we should rank Moltres imo. | C: Sure, it can wall some stuff. | B-: Alolan Ninetales is actually a decently used Dual Screener with some good niches. | UR: I think what this provides over Rillaboom really sucks, not sure why people have been saying ts ok... | A: With the rise of Dracovish, this is an easy raise. | A-: Toxapex forms the backbone of stall teams, so I think its worth a raise. |
| twitch.tv/jakecantsay | yes. mega strong early but now meta adjusted | no. virtually no reason to not run this on every team | yes. extremely potent offense now complemented by set variance | no. insanely strong | no. awesome power, great without needing to dmax | A. too reliant on trick room and dmax to be most effective, but REALLY good when done right. | no | B+ is bloated as hell but it does fit there better. being forced to max to be effective sucks in series 7 | usage has fallen off the planet. I think it's more viable than its usage shows but hard to justify adding to a team in the current climate | I'm biased on this. great way to check zapdos, steela, fini etc. | yeah maybe even more | not sure on this dropping yet. people moving on from overrated multiscale and trying out inner focus improves lando MU | yeah maybe even more. I'd rather use gyara | yeah | nah no way | I think this makes sense to match current upwards trend. so annoying to face | I would say no | unsure | nah | A-. I see it on par, maybe slightly better than water. | I mean it's trending massively atm but I don't think it's more VIABLE. kind of a weird mon that just works atm, probably to piss off lead hippo/swamp and force cinderace users to max airstream asap | I think this thing sucks | B+ for now | B+ too | can we fit anymore in B+? might have to drop a bunch from there | I think this thing sucks | haven't seen enough to comment | why use this now? | i mean.... sure? | i guess | yes | B- | abstain | yeah. water types are everywhere | A- |
B -> B+ (or A-)
A+ -> S (Rise)
A+ -> A-/B+ (Drop)
A- -> A (Rise)
