National Dex UU Chansey

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[SET]
Pink Blob:2 (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Seismic Toss
- Soft-Boiled / Wish
- Toxic / Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock / Protect / Aromatherapy

[SET COMMENTS]
With its enormous bulk due to one of the largest HP stats in the game alongside Eviolite, Chansey is the premier special wall for bulky teams looking to stifle the tier's most threatening special attackers, namely Mega Latios, Iron Moth, Enamorus, and Hydreigon. Seismic Toss is Chansey's most reliable way of dealing damage, letting it punish Toxic-immune targets like Iron Moth and Nihilego while also ensuring Substitute users like Hydreigon and Enamorus cannot use Chansey as setup fodder. Soft-Boiled provides instant reliable recovery, but Wish alongside Protect is an option to grant Chansey increased recovery PP while also potentially passing massive Wishes to teammates. However, this comes at the cost of being more exploitable, as threats like Galarian Moltres and Thundurus-T can use Nasty Plot on forced Protect turns. Toxic restricts special sweepers like Calm Mind Enamorus and Mega Latias while also punishing physical attackers that switch in to threaten Chansey like Iron Hands and Mega Tyranitar. Thunder Wave is an alternative on bulky teams that are less capable of handling setup sweepers like Aegislash and Galarian Zapdos to allow teammates like Ting-Lu and Mega Altaria to outspeed and KO them before they can retaliate. Given the number of opportunities Chansey gets to switch in, Stealth Rock is a great move for it, but Aromatherapy can be used on teams with another entry hazard setter to keep the team free from status. Given its weakness to hazards as well as its passivity, Chansey is typically only seen on stall and bulky teams. Chansey can struggle with many of the tier's most common physical attackers, particularly Mega Tyranitar and Buzzwole, so teammates like Hippowdon and Skarmory are appreciated, and Chansey can check special threats that target them like Latios and Iron Moth in return. Chansey also struggles with Fighting-types like Keldeo and Iron Hands, so teammates like Mega Latias and Clefable are good partners. Teammates like Mega Venusaur and Mega Latias that can handle strong setup sweepers like Nasty Plot Thundurus-T are appreciated. In return, Chansey can help handle special threats that don't rely on setting up such as Choice Specs Enamorus and Hydreigon. Chansey's complete inability to touch Ghost-types without Toxic and staples like Aegislash even with Toxic is problematic, so reliable answers to these threats like Ting-Lu are appreciated. Chansey is threatened heavily by Knock Off, so good Knock Off absorbers like Buzzwole and Clefable are important alongside it, while Chansey can handle any special threats that might threaten them, including Latios and Magnezone.

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ready for QC! I know Chansey is B- so let me know if I should tone down the intro. Also, not sure if I need to explain the differences between it and Blissey or why it is only B-.
 
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[SET]
Pink Blob:2 (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Seismic Toss
- Soft-Boiled / Wish
- Toxic / Protect / Aromatherapy / Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock / Thunder Wave / Protect / Aromatherapy You will probably fight me on this but Chansey dropping Toxic makes it way too passive into a lot of the special threats it's trying to check (Mega-Latias, Moltres-Galar, Washtom, etc). The only reason you would drop it is if you wanted to run the similarly punishing Thunder Wave.

[SET COMMENTS]
With its enormous bulk due to one of the largest HP stats in the game alongside Eviolite, Chansey is the premier special wall for bulky teams looking to stifle the tiers most threatening special attackers like Mega Latios, Booster Iron Moth, Enamorus, and Hydreigon. Seismic Toss is Chansey's most reliable way of dealing damage given its non-existent offensive stats Should also mention that it lets it target threats like Iron Moth and/or Nihilego while also making sure sub users like Hydreigon, some Mlatias variants, and Enamorus don't use it as setup fodder. Soft-Boiled provides instant reliable recovery, but Wish alongside Protect is an option to grant Chansey increased recovery PP while also potentially passing massive Wishes to teammates at the cost of being more exploitable on the Protect turn maybe elaborate a bit more on how it's exploitable. Toxic restricts special sweepers like Calm Mind Enamorus and Latias while punishing the physical attackers that switch in to threaten Chansey, like Iron Hands and Mega Tyranitar. Aromatherapy is an alternative option to help keep the rest of the team free from status rehashing what I mentioned in the set changes, just mention this as an alternative to SR and not Toxic. Given the number of opportunities Chansey gets to switch in, Stealth Rock is a great move for it, but Thunder Wave can be used on teams interested in slowing down wallbreakers such as Mega Gardevoir or Gengar Twave is a pretty mediocre response to these guys esp since both require specific sequences to punish I think more generic wallbreakers like Aegislash and Galarian Zapdos would be better mentions. Twave is also a fat/balance centric move which is less capable of handling setup sweepers, twave punishes them so be sure to mention that. Given its weakness to entry hazards as well as its passivity, Chansey is typically only seen on stall teams. It is very important to mention that it is also seen on Fat teams so I would change some of your mentions to make it less stall-centric Teammates like Skarmory and Mega Sableye are mandatory alongside Chansey as they can deny hazards with Defog or Magic Bounce as well as handle the physical attackers that threaten it, such as Mega Tyranitar or Galarian Zapdos. In return, Chansey can handle special attackers like Thundurus-T *** and Enamorus. Chansey also struggles with Fighting-types like Keldeo and Iron Hands, so teammates like Mega Latias and Clefable are good teammates. Unaware Clefable can also help handle the special sweepers that can set up and brute force through Chansey, like Nasty Plot Thundurus-T *** hey so if Chansey is overwhelmed by NP sets i would remove the previous mention then and Galarian Moltres Are there other partners that you could use to check these on fat?. In return, Chansey can help handle special threats that don't rely on setting up, such as Choice Specs Enamorus and Hydreigon. Chansey's complete inability to touch Ghost-types without Toxic and staples like Aegislash even with Toxic is problematic, so reliable answers to these threats like Ting Lu are appreciated. Chansey is threatened heavily by Knock Off, so good Knock Off absorbers like Buzzwole and Toxapex are important alongside it, while Chansey can handle any special threats that might threaten them like Mega Gardevoir Latios or Hydrapple.

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1/1 when done. A lot of these are comments so feel free to ask any questions
 
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[SET]
Pink Blob:2 (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Seismic Toss
- Soft-Boiled / Wish
- Toxic / Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock / Protect / Aromatherapy

[SET COMMENTS]
With its enormous bulk due to one of the largest HP stats in the game alongside Eviolite, Chansey is the premier special wall for bulky teams looking to stifle the tiers tier's most threatening special attackers, (AC) namely like Mega Latios, Iron Moth, Enamorus, and Hydreigon phrase implies these are the main ones. if this isn't true, feel free to keep existing or clarify. Seismic Toss is Chansey's most reliable way of dealing damage given its non-existent offensive stats, letting it punish Toxic-immune targets like Iron Moth and Nihilego while also ensuring Substitute users like Hydreigon and Enamorus cannot use Chansey as setup fodder. Soft-Boiled provides instant reliable recovery, but Wish alongside Protect is an option to grant Chansey increased recovery PP while also potentially passing massive Wishes to teammates. However, this comes at the cost of being more exploitable, as threats like Galarian Moltres and Thundurus-T can Nasty Plot on forced Protect turns. Toxic restricts special sweepers like Calm Mind Enamorus and Latias while punishing the physical attackers that switch in to threaten Chansey, (RC) like Iron Hands and Mega Tyranitar 'the' implies that these are the only ones, but 'like' implies there are more. I interpreted as the latter, but please clarify otherwise. Thunder Wave is an alternative on fat teams which that are less capable of handling setup sweepers like Aegislash or Galarian Zapdos to allow teammates like Ting Lu or and Mega Altaria to outspeed and KO them before they can retaliate. Given the number of opportunities Chansey gets to switch in, Stealth Rock is a great move for it, but Aromatherapy can be used on teams with another entry hazard setter to keep the team free from status. Given its weakness to hazards as well as its passivity, Chansey is typically only seen on stall and fat teams. Chansey can struggle with many of the tier's most common physical attackers, (AC) particularly like Mega Tyranitar and Buzzwole, so teammates like Hippowdon or and Skarmory are appreciated, and Chansey can check the special threats that target them like Latios and Iron Moth in return. Chansey also struggles with Fighting-types like Keldeo and Iron Hands, so teammates like Mega Latias and Clefable are good teammates. Teammates like Mega Venusaur and Mega Latias that can handle strong setup sweepers like Nasty Plot Thundurus-T like Mega Venusaur and Mega Latias are appreciated. In return, Chansey can help handle special threats that don't rely on setting up, (RC) such as Choice Specs Enamorus and Hydreigon. lack of qualifier on 'special threats' makes the examples read as the qualifier, so I merged the clauses Chansey's complete inability to touch Ghost-types without Toxic and staples like Aegislash even with Toxic is problematic, so reliable answers to these threats like Ting Lu are appreciated. Chansey is threatened heavily by Knock Off, so good Knock Off absorbers like Buzzwole and Toxapex are important alongside it, while Chansey can handle any special threats that might threaten them like, (AC) including 'any' typically stands for itself and does not need elaboration, so I moved the examples to a dependant clause Latios or and Hydrapple.

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lol following up an amcheck with an amcheck.
It looks pretty good now.

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[SET]
Pink Blob:2 (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Seismic Toss
- Soft-Boiled / Wish
- Toxic / Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock / Protect / Aromatherapy

[SET COMMENTS]
With its enormous bulk due to one of the largest HP stats in the game alongside Eviolite, Chansey is the premier special wall for bulky teams looking to stifle the tier's most threatening special attackers, namely Mega Latios, Iron Moth, Enamorus, and Hydreigon. Seismic Toss is Chansey's most reliable way of dealing damage, letting it punish Toxic-immune targets like Iron Moth and Nihilego while also ensuring Substitute users like Hydreigon and Enamorus cannot use Chansey as setup fodder. Soft-Boiled provides instant reliable recovery, but Wish alongside Protect is an option to grant Chansey increased recovery PP while also potentially passing massive Wishes to teammates. However, this comes at the cost of being more exploitable, as threats like Galarian Moltres and Thundurus-T can Nasty Plot on forced Protect turns. Toxic restricts special sweepers like Calm Mind Enamorus and Latias while punishing physical attackers that switch in to threaten Chansey like such as probably correct as is, but I would appreciate feedback from approver on this nevertheless. 'such as' seems to be clearer in this context; if the 'like' was directly after 'physical attackers' I'd have no issue with it Iron Hands and Mega Tyranitar. Thunder Wave is an alternative on fat teams that are less capable of handling setup sweepers like Aegislash or and Galarian Zapdos to allow teammates like Ting Lu and Mega Altaria to outspeed and KO them before they can retaliate. Given the number of opportunities Chansey gets to switch in, Stealth Rock is a great move for it, but Aromatherapy can be used on teams with another entry hazard setter to keep the team free from status. Given its weakness to hazards as well as its passivity, Chansey is typically only seen on stall and fat teams. Chansey can struggle with many of the tier's most common physical attackers, particularly Mega Tyranitar and Buzzwole, so teammates like Hippowdon and Skarmory are appreciated, and Chansey can check the special threats that target them like Latios and Iron Moth in return. similarly to the previous check, 'the' implies that your examples are definitive, but 'like' implies otherwise. Easiest solution is to remove 'the' since Chansey does handle pretty much every special threat anyway Chansey also struggles with Fighting-types like Keldeo and Iron Hands, so teammates like Mega Latias and Clefable are good teammates. Teammates like Mega Venusaur and Mega Latias that can handle strong setup sweepers like Nasty Plot Thundurus-T are appreciated. In return, Chansey can help handle special threats that don't rely on setting up such as Choice Specs Enamorus and Hydreigon. Chansey's complete inability to touch Ghost-types without Toxic and staples like Aegislash even with Toxic is problematic, so reliable answers to these threats like Ting Lu are appreciated. Chansey is threatened heavily by Knock Off, so good Knock Off absorbers like Buzzwole and Toxapex are important alongside it, while Chansey can handle any special threats that might threaten them, (AC) including Latios and Hydrapple you missed this one from my previous check, 'including' should have a comma before it when it adds more information.

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Toxic restricts special sweepers like Calm Mind Enamorus and Latias while punishing physical attackers that switch in to threaten Chansey like such as probably correct as is, but I would appreciate feedback from approver on this nevertheless. 'such as' seems to be clearer in this context; if the 'like' was directly after 'physical attackers' I'd have no issue with it Iron Hands and Mega Tyranitar.
its clear as is change not needed, if anything u can just make while => while also so it separates the two clauses
 

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[SET]
Pink Blob:2 (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Seismic Toss
- Soft-Boiled / Wish
- Toxic / Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock / Protect / Aromatherapy

[SET COMMENTS]
With its enormous bulk due to one of the largest HP stats in the game alongside Eviolite, Chansey is the premier special wall for bulky teams looking to stifle the tier's most threatening special attackers, namely Mega Latios, Iron Moth, Enamorus, and Hydreigon. Seismic Toss is Chansey's most reliable way of dealing damage, letting it punish Toxic-immune targets like Iron Moth and Nihilego while also ensuring Substitute users like Hydreigon and Enamorus cannot use Chansey as setup fodder. Soft-Boiled provides instant reliable recovery, but Wish alongside Protect is an option to grant Chansey increased recovery PP while also potentially passing massive Wishes to teammates. However, this comes at the cost of being more exploitable, as threats like Galarian Moltres and Thundurus-T can use Nasty Plot on forced Protect turns. Toxic restricts special sweepers like Calm Mind Enamorus and Latias while also punishing physical attackers that switch in to threaten Chansey like Iron Hands and Mega Tyranitar. Thunder Wave is an alternative on fat bulky teams that are less capable of handling setup sweepers like Aegislash or and Galarian Zapdos to allow teammates like Ting-Lu (AH) and Mega Altaria to outspeed and KO them before they can retaliate. Given the number of opportunities Chansey gets to switch in, Stealth Rock is a great move for it, but Aromatherapy can be used on teams with another entry hazard setter to keep the team free from status. Given its weakness to hazards as well as its passivity, Chansey is typically only seen on stall and fat bulky teams. Chansey can struggle with many of the tier's most common physical attackers, particularly Mega Tyranitar and Buzzwole, so teammates like Hippowdon and Skarmory are appreciated, and Chansey can check special threats that target them like Latios and Iron Moth in return. Chansey also struggles with Fighting-types like Keldeo and Iron Hands, so teammates like Mega Latias and Clefable are good teammates partners (avoiding "teammates" repetition). Teammates like Mega Venusaur and Mega Latias that can handle strong setup sweepers like Nasty Plot Thundurus-T are appreciated. In return, Chansey can help handle special threats that don't rely on setting up such as Choice Specs Enamorus and Hydreigon. Chansey's complete inability to touch Ghost-types without Toxic and staples like Aegislash even with Toxic is problematic, so reliable answers to these threats like Ting-Lu (AH) are appreciated. Chansey is threatened heavily by Knock Off, so good Knock Off absorbers like Buzzwole and Toxapex are important alongside it, while Chansey can handle any special threats that might threaten them, including Latios and Hydrapple.

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