[CAP ASB] CAP Updates for 5th Gen ASB

[Cartoons!]

Breezi

Including Doug's Voodoll sprite, that leaves just the Pyroak line, right? Is anyone taking them?

 

[SgtWoodsy]

Breezi

Including Doug's Voodoll sprite, that leaves just the Pyroak line, right? Is anyone taking them?

That is fucking adorable

Can't see anyone taking a crack at Embirch & Flarelm, so they're all yours.

 

[Alchemator]

Including Doug's Voodoll sprite, that leaves just the Pyroak line, right? Is anyone taking them?

I see what you did there.

In terms of the sprite, the outline of the face seems a tad out of place. I get the feeling that it could be because of the black outline - experiment with a lighter shade on the outline of the top left I guess. Probably just an opinion thing.

I'm loving what you've done with the parachute though, really nicely done.

 

[Deck Knight]

Trying to reconcile data is a pain in the butt.

This will be done by this weekend.

Finalize Stratagem, Fidgit, and Kitsunoh's movepools please.

 

[Tortferngatr]

Plicowatt/Krilowatt work (only partially official):
Plicowatt's Height: 0' 3"
Plicowatt's Weight: 0.5 pounds
Evolution: Evolves by leveling up with maximum Toughness in Gen IV, in Gen V evolves by leveling up in Sazanami Bay at nighttime.
Type: Electric/Water
Abilities: Trace/Magic Guard (Dream World: Shed Skin, changes to Shell Armor upon evolving into Krilowatt)

HP: 10 (80)
Attack: 10 (*)
Defense: 25 (*)
Special Attack: 50 (**)
Special Defense: 25 (*)
Speed: 55 (**)
Total: 175

The absolute stats are simply for the purposes of the PO server.

Given Krilowatt has the highest BST of any CAP yet created, I decided to add a twist of Plicowatt having the lowest BST of any Pokemon (5 points below Sunkern.) In essence, Plicowatt is a super-Feebas, ironically appropriate given its namesakes (Picoplankton and picowatts-Picoplankton are VERY VERY VERY tiny plankton, and a picowatt is a trillionth of a watt.)

0 Bubble
0 Charge
0 Tackle
10 Thundershock
25 Detect
50 Zap Cannon

Tiny movepool: Par for the course given its status as the Super-Feebas.

Zap Cannon is really just an easter egg for BatCap. It also frees up space in its evo's movepool.

Follow Me
Me First
Metronome
Mind Reader
Mirror Coat
Counter
Sheer Cold
Muddy Water
Shock Wave
Flash
Whirlpool

Feebas can have Egg moves, so can this.

Dive
Earth Power
Helping Hand
Icy Wind
Swift
Signal Beam

Really just Krilowatt minus punch moves.

TM03 Water Pulse
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Shock Wave
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM58 Endure
TM67 Recycle
TM70 Flash
TM72 Thunder Wave
TM78 Captivate
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM90 Substitute
HM05 Whirlpool

Feebas can learn TMs. So can this-just note that I intentionally excluded several of the more powerful TMs, and I intentionally didn't include Waterfall/Surf-you aren't riding this thing up a waterfall, and you aren't holding something less than 100 times your weight and 3 inches of height to swim.

TM03 Water Pulse
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM55 Scald
TM70 Flash
TM72 Thunder Wave
TM73 Volt Change
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
HM06 Dive

Not much change.

0 Ice Shard
0 Bubble
0 Charge
5 Thundershock
11 Confuse Ray
17 Imprison
19 Aqua Jet
24 Mirror Coat
28 Bubblebeam
33 Counter
39 Copycat
46 Heart Swap
51 Discharge
57 Guillotine
63 Thunder
68 Muddy Water

0 Ice Shard
0 Bubble
0 Charge
0 Thundershock
5 Thundershock
11 Confuse Ray
17 Aqua Jet
20 Mirror Coat
20 Counter
25 Imprison
28 Bubblebeam
33 Volt Change
39 Copycat
46 Heart Swap
51 Discharge
57 Guillotine
63 Thunder
68 Hydro Pump

I compromised-while Krill's net levelup pool remained relatively similar to Gen IV (as Deck wanted), I added 1 net move (Thundershock is now counted twice, so it looks like 2 net moves) and I rearranged his levelup pool a bit between levels 17 and 33. Muddy Water is now an egg move, with Hydro Pump replacing it. Additionally, Volt Change is now in Krilo's level-up movepool for STAB until Discharge comes along.

TM01 Hone Claws
TM03 Water Pulse
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM41 Torment
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM47 Ankle Sweep
TM48 Round
TM55 Scald
TM56 Fling
TM60 Postpone
TM66 Payback
TM68 Giga Impact
TM70 Flash
TM72 Thunder Wave
TM73 Volt Change
TM78 Smooth Over
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
TM94 Rock Smash
HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM05 Waterfall
HM06 Dive

Charge Beam is left out due to tradition.
Hone Claws is put in (despite Krilo's intentional lack of boosting moves in Gen IV) because Krilowatt isn't exactly utility countering as much as it used to. (Besides, Krilowatt has RECOIL-FREE WILD CHARGES)

 

[Tortferngatr]

Plicowatt/Krilowatt update rough draft

Plicowatt (sprite may need a touch-up/shrinking, credit to Mektar for the base):

Plicowatt's Height: 0' 3"
Plicowatt's Weight: 0.5 pounds/0.2 Kg
Evolution: Plicowatt --Level with maxed happiness on Route 41 (HG/SS), Lake Verity (D/P/Pt), or Sazanami Bay (B/W)--> Krilowatt
Type: Electric/Water
Electric: Electric STAB; 50% reduction in paralysis chance from other electrical attacks, perfect accuracy and 30% chance of Protect breaking Thunder during Rain.
Water: Water STAB; Can breathe and have excellent mobility when underwater, are less capable on land unless they are entirely amphibious. Splash and Ice Moves have Energy Cost reduced by one (1).

Abilities:
Trace: (Can be Activated) This Pokemon can copy an ability of the opponent and replace Trace for six (6) actions. Wonder Guard cannot be Traced.
Magic Guard: (Innate) This Pokemon is infused with a powerful psycho-electric energy that makes it immune to damage from Hail, Sandstorm, and damage from Leech Seed, Poisoning, and Burn. It can still attack itself in confusion, but will not absorb any damage from it.
Shed Skin (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon regularly sheds its skin and any impurities contained in its body. If afflicted with a status condition, this Pokemon has a 33% chance of removing all status conditions at the end of a round.

Stats: 8 / 8 / 40 / 60 / 40 / 65

HP: 80
Atk: *
Def: **
SpA: ***
SpD: **
Spe: 65

4th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Bubble
0 Charge
0 Tackle
10 Thundershock
25 Detect
50 Zap Cannon

5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Bubble
0 Charge
0 Tackle
10 Thundershock
25 Detect
50 Zap Cannon

Egg Moves: (Water 1/Fairy)
Follow Me
Me First
Metronome
Mind Reader
Mirror Coat
Counter
Sheer Cold
Muddy Water (Gen V)
Shock Wave (Gen V)
Flash (Gen V)
Whirlpool (Gen V)

4th Gen Tutor Moves:
Dive
Earth Power
Helping Hand
Icy Wind
Signal Beam
Swift

4th Gen TMs:
TM03 Water Pulse
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Shock Wave
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM58 Endure
TM67 Recycle
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM78 Captivate
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM90 Substitute
HM05 Whirlpool

5th Gen TMs:
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM55 Scald
TM70 Flash
TM72 Volt Change
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
HM06 Dive

Krillowatt:

Height: 2'4"
Weight: 23.4 lbs / 10.6 kg
Evolution: Plicowatt --Level with maxed happiness on Route 41 (HG/SS), Lake Verity (D/P/Pt), or Sazanami Bay (B/W)--> Krilowatt
Electric: Electric STAB; 50% reduction in paralysis chance from other electrical attacks, perfect accuracy and 30% chance of Protect breaking Thunder during Rain.
Water: Water STAB; Can breathe and have excellent mobility when underwater, are less capable on land unless they are entirely amphibious. Splash and Ice Moves have Energy Cost reduced by one (1).

Abilities:
Trace: (Can be Activated) This Pokemon can copy an ability of the opponent and replace Trace for six (6) actions. Wonder Guard cannot be Traced.
Magic Guard: (Innate) This Pokemon is infused with a powerful psycho-electric energy that makes it immune to damage from Hail, Sandstorm, and damage from Leech Seed, Poisoning, and Burn. It can still attack itself in confusion, but will not absorb any damage from it.
Shell Armor (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon’s thick, bony outer shell prevents it from taking critical hits.

Stats: 151 / 84 / 73 / 83 / 74 / 105

HP: 120
Atk: ***
Def: ***
SpA: ***
SpD: ***
Spe: 105

4th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Ice Shard
0 Bubble
0 Charge
5 Thundershock
11 Confuse Ray
17 Imprison
19 Aqua Jet
24 Mirror Coat
28 Bubblebeam
33 Counter
39 Copycat
46 Heart Swap
51 Discharge
57 Guillotine
63 Thunder
68 Muddy Water

5th Gen Level-Up Moves:
0 Ice Shard
0 Bubble
0 Charge
0 Thundershock
5 Thundershock
11 Confuse Ray
17 Aqua Jet
20 Mirror Coat
20 Counter
25 Imprison
28 Bubblebeam
33 Volt Change
39 Copycat
46 Heart Swap
51 Discharge
57 Guillotine
63 Thunder
68 Hydro Pump

Egg Moves: (Water 1/Fairy)
Follow Me
Me First
Metronome
Mind Reader
Mirror Coat
Counter
Sheer Cold
Muddy Water (Gen V)
Shock Wave (Gen V)
Flash (Gen V)
Whirlpool (Gen V)

4th Gen Tutor Moves:
Dive
Earth Power
Fury Cutter
Helping Hand
Ice Punch
Icy Wind
Low Kick
Signal Beam
Swift
ThunderPunch

4th Gen TMs:
TM03 Water Pulse
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Shock Wave
TM41 Torment
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM56 Fling
TM58 Endure
TM66 Payback
TM67 Recycle
TM68 Giga Impact
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM90 Substitute
HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM05 Whirlpool
HM07 Waterfall

5th Gen TMs:
TM01 Hone Claws
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM41 Torment
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM47 Ankle Sweep
TM48 Round
TM55 Scald
TM56 Fling
TM60 Postpone
TM66 Payback
TM68 Giga Impact
TM70 Flash
TM72 Volt Change
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM78 Smooth Over
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
TM94 Rock Smash
HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM05 Waterfall
HM06 Dive

 

[smashlloyd20]

Why in the world are Plico's stats so low? I'd say they should all be around 10 points higher maybe.

 

[Tortferngatr]

Why in the world are Plico's stats so low? I'd say they should all be around 10 points higher maybe.

I intentionally made its stats 5 points below Sunkern's total of 180 (the lowest BST of all Pokemon)-this was inspired by the fact Krilowatt has the highest BST of all CAPs made yet. Besides, it's a based on freaking zooplankton/microscopic shrimp larvae, and it's named for "picowatt" and "picoplankton"-one trillionth of a volt and the tiniest varieties of plankton, respectively. Of course it's going to be rather weak-besides, it evolves into a mon with a BST of 570 that gets free Life Orb abuse. (AND RECOIL-LESS WILD CHARGES.)

The absurd amount of weakness was quite deliberate-giving it TM access, several moves with semi-decent power, and Magic Guard was mercy. (Zap Cannon wasn't mercy-that was a present for BatCap.)

 

[smashlloyd20]

Still, there is no need to make a Pokemon that weak. That just makes it unfun to play with.

 

[Tortferngatr]

Still, there is no need to make a Pokemon that weak. That just makes it unfun to play with.

...

8/8/40/60/40/65? (221 BST?)

Comment?

 

[Cartoons!]

People would have to suffer similarly if they want a Gyarados or Milotic. At least Plicowatt has a movepool

much thanks to Wyverii for cleaning up the Embirch sprite.

The more angsty and rebellious Flarelm is appropriately rougher around the edges.

 

[Deck Knight]

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8/8/40/60/40/65? (221 BST?)

Comment?

If you're going to make a lolweakmon, please don't make it functionally worse than Magikarp through idiotic things like 8 Base HP. At least try to be realistic towards the CAP mon's concept.

Suggestion:

Stats: 21 / 29 / 13 / 28 / 14 / 95 BST = 200 (Same as Karp)
HP: 80
Atk: **
Def: *
SpA: **
SpD: *
Spe: 95

If this were in LC it'd probably be way too weak, but anyway it does pretty much the same thing as Krillowatt which is outspeed a fairly significant speed tier and use coverage to take care of threats. I'll probably be shelling out the movepool a bit more too. I'm keeping your general concept/abilities, but I will be making a few tweaks to keep it in line. I also managed to lower your BST total.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

http://ivnbvn.com/pixels/flarelm.png

Am I the only one who thinks that Flarelm looks about 50x cooler than Pyroak?

 

[Wikey]

@RD: No, that is the coolest fakemon sprite I've ever seen. Love the Mewtwo like pose. If I take part in this ASB thing I think Embirch is way up on my list of who to choose.

I don't really see any way you can use Krillo, Gyara, or Milotic without being a ref. You're basically sacking a team slot for four battles. (Well, three if I understand the mechanics right. But it won't know any good moves if you evolve mid-battle I think?)

 

[Tortferngatr]

If you're going to make a lolweakmon, please don't make it functionally worse than Magikarp through idiotic things like 8 Base HP. At least try to be realistic towards the CAP mon's concept.

Suggestion:

Stats: 21 / 29 / 13 / 28 / 14 / 95 BST = 200 (Same as Karp)
HP: 80
Atk: **
Def: *
SpA: **
SpD: *
Spe: 95

If this were in LC it'd probably be way too weak, but anyway it does pretty much the same thing as Krillowatt which is outspeed a fairly significant speed tier and use coverage to take care of threats. I'll probably be shelling out the movepool a bit more too. I'm keeping your general concept/abilities, but I will be making a few tweaks to keep it in line. I also managed to lower your BST total.

It was originally 10-10-25-50-25-55: a BST of 175 with functionally worse defenses than the second version and a lower BST than Sunkern. 8-40-40 is better than 10-25-25 I think, though correct me if I'm wrong.

But okay.

People would have to suffer similarly if they want a Gyarados or Milotic. At least Plicowatt has a movepool

much thanks to Wyverii for cleaning up the Embirch sprite.

The more angsty and rebellious Flarelm is appropriately rougher around the edges.

Not only that, but assuming Plicowatt is a post-game mon in Gen V, you're already going to have everything at your disposal by the time you capture it, including Sazanami Bay. Its concept was to be a "super-Karp/super-Feebas [or should that be an infra-Karp/infra-Feebas?]"

Also, Flarelm/Flamaple looks REALLY badass.

 

[Deck Knight]

@RD: No, that is the coolest fakemon sprite I've ever seen. Love the Mewtwo like pose. If I take part in this ASB thing I think Embirch is way up on my list of who to choose.

I don't really see any way you can use Krillo, Gyara, or Milotic without being a ref. You're basically sacking a team slot for four battles. (Well, three if I understand the mechanics right. But it won't know any good moves if you evolve mid-battle I think?)

To be fair, most of the Baby Pokemon as well as Magikarp, lowly bugs, and Feebas to an extent act this way. Plicowatt will be far from the only Pokemon that requires either multiple battle investment of KO scavenging to get up to its higher form.

It was originally 10-10-25-50-25-55: a BST of 175 with functionally worse defenses. 8-40-40 is better than 10-25-25 I think.

But okay.

Perhaps but it's fairly irrelevant and completely not the way Krillowatt operates. To be honest I kind of liked Mektar's sprite more since it was a bit brighter. I'll look it over and see if one or thr other can be touched up by someone or whatever, I'm not horribly picky.

 

[Tortferngatr]

To be fair, most of the Baby Pokemon as well as Magikarp, lowly bugs, and Feebas to an extent act this way. Plicowatt will be far from the only Pokemon that requires either multiple battle investment of KO scavenging to get up to its higher form.



Perhaps but it's fairly irrelevant and completely not the way Krillowatt operates. To be honest I kind of liked Mektar's sprite more since it was a bit brighter. I'll look it over and see if one or thr other can be touched up by someone or whatever, I'm not horribly picky.

The original art was purple-I compromised between it and Krilowatt colors at Scolipede/Pendra scarlet.

Though yeah-Mektar had the scaling down a lot better, especially given I made this thing 1 inch smaller than current record-holder for smallness Joltik.

 

[Mektar]

We could host a poll to see which sprite people like more, or something.

Oh, and I don't think Krillowatt should be 3-stage. One, that would make it more like Gyrados, and Two, I can't think of anything we could base it off of.

 

[Tortferngatr]

We could host a poll to see which sprite people like more, or something.

Oh, and I don't think Krillowatt should be 3-stage. One, that would make it more like Gyrados, and Two, I can't think of anything we could base it off of.

The Magikarp-Gyara twist was part of Plicowatt's point, given Krill has the highest BST of all CAPs to date.

We could have Plicowatt (shrimp larva)->Krilliwatt (tiny adult shrimp)->Krilowatt (jumbo shrimp.) It would be a little like Ralts (lolweak mon) -> Kirlia (still pretty weak mon) -> Gardevoir/Gallade (pretty good mon)

I'm perfectly content with Plicowatt -> Krilowatt, though

 

[Ice-eyes]

I think Krilo should be a two-stage, it doesn't seem right as a 3, but yeah it would help if Plico was usable in LC.

Stat spread along the lines of 101 / 44 / 43 / 44 / 43 / 85 makes sense.

 

[Cartoons!]

Personally, I thought it would have been funny to see Krilowatt as an inversion of the Gyarados trope. We have a puny, helpless-looking final stager with monster stats, so a gigantic, intimidating baby form, some creature of the deep, would be appropriate, eh?

 

[smallvizier]

It could be a much larger carapace, shell or exo-skeleton which is shed once the baby grows strong enough to defend itself...