so dumb how if you dont get people that are high up in the ladder early on you have to win 90% of your battles to get the glicko2 rating.
Seconding this. I had ~1800 rating after roughly 20 battles and then had a really hard time raising glicko2 to 2000. When you gain like 2-3 points per win and lose like 30 if you lose (hax :O) that kinda screws you.
Anyways i finally got the req's after nearly 100 battles (so it took me ~80 battles to get from 1800 to 2000 - yay):
I have been using an very old (end of 2011) BW1-Sunstallteam (as i did for most of the BW2 era on the ladder) and didnt have much if any problems with Genesect. I have never been swept by Genesect since his introduction and based on my own experiences i deem him
NOT Uber.
People claiming that stall is more viable on the suspect-ladder (the one without genesect) are honestly out of their minds. Genesect isnt a huge threat to any well-build stall team more than LO-NP-Thundurus-T, SD-Haxorus, Growth-GigaDrain-Venusaur, Tornadus-T, etc. are. If im using stall im way more scared of these guys than Genesect.
Sure Genesect is a good pivot and his u-turn may enable him to put pressure on me but that is nothing new - we have had to deal with that shit throughout the whole bw1 era (voltturn yay).
I think Genesect fits perfectly fine into the metagame and doesnt put as much as a strain on teambuilding as for example Tornadus-T does because one can check Genesect with having multiple 'checks' to him which also accomplis other roles well (i.e. Terrakion).
I think Genesect is just so versatile that its really easy to fit on teams kinda like Tyranitar in ADV. Almost any team can make use of one of his multitude of sets and Genesect can fulfill multiple roles. So he can sweep (RP), check threats (scarf) or break/weaken certain key mons (cb, ebelt, w.e.) and he does all this well but he cant do it all at once.
Therefore he is versatile and useful but not broken.
I kinda like the Metagame right now to be honest and id rather see us unban stuff (Thundurus-I!!!!) than banning something.
Now onto the suspect-ladder.....
Reqs for current ou and suspect ou:
current OU took around ~80 battles to get Glicko2 and deviation in line when i had ~2k rating after 20 battles.
On suspect ou i ff/d like 10 battles today to lower my deviation fast enough.....
What i pretty much wanna say: That shit took way too long.