Gen 5 [ZU] Gloom [DONE]

[missangelic]

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Sludge Bomb
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Synthesis
item: Eviolite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Gloom's convenient Grass / Poison typing, solid defensive stats boosted by Eviolite, and reliable recovery make it a decent wall. Physical wallbreakers and setup sweepers such as Leafeon, Meganium, Whiscash, and Kingler all struggle to break through Gloom without a boost, and all of them take massive damage from Gloom's Giga Drain and Sludge Bomb. Attacks from Stealth Rock setters such as Solrock, Wormadam-G, and Hippopotas hardly damage Gloom, giving it free entry. Leech Seed makes Gloom less passive against physical attackers it struggles to damage, such as Muk, Pawniard, and Arbok. Leech Seed can also support Gloom's teammates that don't have any form of recovery, such as Lairon, Grumpig, and Walrein. Synthesis keeps Gloom healthy on its own, letting it take repeated attacks from physical pivots like Mienfoo and Persian. Although Gloom is a physical wall, its natural special bulk and Poison typing enable it to sit on passive Pokemon like Frillish, Staryu, and Wormadam-S.

Physically frail teammates like Clefairy, Raichu, and Mr. Mime appreciate Gloom taking on physical attackers like Leafeon and Mienfoo. In return, they check problematic specially offensive Pokemon like Simisear, Glaceon, and Grumpig. Gloom deals little damage to Poison-types like Muk and Arbok, so partners like Grumpig, Mr. Mime, Whiscash, and Solrock pair well with it. In exchange, Gloom can check bulky Grass-types and physical attackers like Meganium and Whiscash. Clefairy walls Gloom thanks to Magic Guard, so Mienfoo, Knock Off Persian, and Taunt Emolga make great partners. Gloom is dependent on its Eviolite for its bulk, so physical attackers like Persian and Mienfoo that run Knock Off can be problematic for it. Partners like Solrock and Emolga can help Gloom hold onto its item and check the aforementioned threats.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Gloom has access to support moves such as Stun Spore and Toxic, but Leech Seed's ability to wear down targets like Arbok, Muk, and Wormadam-S is more valuable. Worry Seed nullifies Clefairy's Magic Guard, but Gloom struggles to fit it over a STAB attack. Dropping Giga Drain makes Gloom worse into Kingler and Whiscash, while dropping Sludge Bomb makes Gloom worse into Leafeon and Meganium. Most specially offensive Pokemon in the tier such as Simisear, Glaceon, and Mr. Mime hit Gloom super effectively, so a specially set is less useful than a physically defensive one.


Checks and Counters
===================
**Specially Offensive Pokemon**: Grumpig, Simisear, Mr. Mime, and Glaceon have no problem blowing past Gloom with their powerful STAB moves. Other special attackers such as Raichu and Pikachu often run super effective coverage like Hidden Power Ice.

**Clefairy**: Gloom cannot break through even physically defensive Clefairy, as its Magic Guard denies Sludge Bomb poisoning and Leech Seed. Clefairy can weaken Gloom as a wall with Knock Off and Thunder Wave.

**Poison- and Steel-types**: Gloom has little besides Leech Seed to deal with Arbok and Muk, and Ivysaur is unaffected. Pawniard can use Gloom as an opportunity to set up, while Wormadam-S can use it to set Stealth Rock.

**Emolga**: Emolga is especially dangerous for Gloom with its Flying Gem boosted Acrobatics, Taunt, Encore, and Knock Off, neutralizing Gloom as a wall if Emolga doesn't just overwhelm it.

**Knock Off**: Gloom relies on Eviolite for a significant amount of its bulk, and losing it is problematic. Mienfoo and Persian are common physical attackers that can disrupt Gloom with Knock Off. Ivysaur, Emolga, and Clefairy also commonly run Knock Off.

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[sleid]

Awesome work

QC 1/2

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Sludge Bomb
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Synthesis
item: Eviolite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Gloom's convenient Grass/Poison typing, solid defensive stats boosted by Eviolite, and reliable recovery make it a decent wall. Physical wallbreakers or setup sweepers such as Leafeon, Meganium, Whiscash, and Kingler all struggle to break through Gloom without a boost, and all of them take massive damage from Gloom's Giga Drain and Sludge Bomb. Attacks from Stealth Rock setters such as Solrock, Wormadam-G, and Hippopotas hardly damage Gloom, giving Gloom free entry. Leech Seed makes Gloom less passive against physical attackers it struggles to damage, such as Muk, Pawniard, and Arbok. Leech Seed supports Gloom and its teammates with recovery and wear down bulky foes such as Wormadam-S, Munchlax, and Shelgon (i would just mention that it helps give health back to teammates who don't have any form recovery like Lairon, Grumpig, and Walrein). Synthesis keeps Gloom healthy on top of Leech Seed recovery. Although Gloom is a physical wall, its natural special bulk and Poison-type enable it to sit on passive Pokemon like Frillish, Staryu, and Wormadam-S.

Teammates which struggle with physical attackers (mention a specific physical attacker or 2 like Mienfoo and like leafeon or whiscash), such specially defensive Clefairy or Munchlax, appreciate Gloom as a wall. In return, they check problematic specially offensive Pokemon like Simisear, Mr. Mime, and Grumpig. Gloom dislikes Poison-types like Muk and Arbok, so partners like Grumpig, Mr. Mime, Whiscash, and Solrock pair well with it ("pair well with" makes me think that these Pokemon can help switch in against their weaknesses. something like "help against" or "do well into these Pokemon" might fit better here. or, list offensive checks separately like the first two and list a good partner to form a core like the latter two). In exchange, Gloom can check the Grass-types and physical attackers they struggle with. Clefairy totally walls to Gloom thanks to Magic Guard, so partners like Mienfoo, Knock Off Persian, and Taunt Emolga alleviate this bad matchup for Gloom. Gloom is dependent on its Eviolite for its bulk, so physical attackers which run it (did you mean "it" as in Knock Off?) like Persian and Mienfoo are problems for Gloom. Partners like Solrock or Muk can help Gloom hold onto its item while walling the aforementioned threats.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Gloom has access to support moves such as Stun Spore and Toxic, but Leech Seed's recovery and ability to wear down targets like Arbok, Muk, and Wormadam-S is appreciated more. Gastro Acid or Worry Seed nullify Clefairy's Magic Guard, but Gloom struggles to fit it over a STAB if it runs it with Leech Seed. Dropping Giga Drain makes Gloom worse into Kingler and Whiscash while dropping Sludge Bomb makes Gloom worse into Leafeon and Meganium. Gloom has great special bulk, but most specially offensive Pokemon in the tier such as Simisear, Glaceon, and Mr. Mime hit Gloom super effectively. Stench may appear to have a situational use compared to Chlorophyll, but Gloom cannot run both Stench and Leech Seed on the same set.


Checks and Counters
===================
**Specially offensive Pokemon**: Grumpig, Simisear, Mr. Mime, and Glaceon have no problem blowing past Gloom with their powerful STAB moves. Other special attackers such as Raichu and Pikachu often run super effective coverage like Hidden Power Ice.

**Clefairy**: Even physically defensive Clefairy cannot be broken through by Gloom, as Sludge Bomb poisons and Leech Seed are denied by Clefairy's Magic Guard. Clefairy can proceed to neuter Gloom with Knock Off and Thunder Wave or run it out of Synthesis and health with Seismic Toss.

**Poison- and Steel-types**: Gloom has little besides Leech Seed to deal with Arbok and Muk while not touching Ivysaur. Pawniard can use Gloom as an opportunity to set up while Wormadam-S can use it to set up Stealth Rock.

**Emolga**: Emolga is especially dangerous for Gloom between Flying Gem boosted Acrobatics, Taunt, Encore, and Knock Off, neutralizing Gloom as a wall if it doesn't just overwhelm it.

**Knock Off**: Gloom relies on Eviolite for a significant amount of its bulk, and losing it is problematic. Mienfoo and Persian are common physical attackers that can disrupt Gloom with Knock Off.

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[missangelic]

Thanks for the check, implemented!

 

[Gangsta Spongebob]

Good work, QC 2/2 when implemented

QC 2/2

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[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Sludge Bomb
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Synthesis
item: Eviolite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Gloom's convenient Grass/Poison typing, solid defensive stats boosted by Eviolite, and reliable recovery make it a decent wall. Physical wallbreakers or setup sweepers such as Leafeon, Meganium, Whiscash, and Kingler all struggle to break through Gloom without a boost, and all of them take massive damage from Gloom's Giga Drain and Sludge Bomb. Attacks from Stealth Rock setters such as Solrock, Wormadam-G, and Hippopotas hardly damage Gloom, giving Gloom free entry. Leech Seed makes Gloom less passive against physical attackers it struggles to damage, such as Muk, Pawniard, and Arbok. Leech Seed can support Gloom's teammates who don't have any recovery, such as Lairon, Grumpig, and Walrein. Synthesis keeps Gloom healthy on its own, letting it take repeated attacks from physical pivots like Mienfoo or Persian. Although Gloom is a physical wall, its natural special bulk and Poison-type enable it to sit on passive Pokemon like Frillish, Staryu, and Wormadam-S. Mention why it can't run Stench with Leech Seed

Physically frail teammates like Clefairy or Munchlax Mention that these are Sp Def sets. Also give a more common example than Munchlax appreciate Gloom taking on physical attackers like Leafeon and Mienfoo. In return, they check problematic specially offensive Pokemon like Simisear, Mr. Mime, and Grumpig. Gloom struggles with Specify why Poison-types like Muk and Arbok, so partners like Grumpig, Mr. Mime, Whiscash, and Solrock pair well with it. In exchange, Gloom can check bulky Grass-types and physical attackers like Meganium and Whiscash. Clefairy walls to Gloom thanks to Magic Guard, so Mienfoo, Knock Off Persian, and Taunt Emolga make great partners. Gloom is dependent on its Eviolite for its bulk, so physical attackers like Persian and Mienfoo which run Knock Off can be problematic for Gloom. Partners like Solrock or Emolga can help Gloom hold onto its item and check the aforementioned threats.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Gloom has access to support moves such as Stun Spore and Toxic, but Leech Seed's ability to wear down targets like Arbok, Muk, and Wormadam-S is more valuable. Gastro Acid or Worry Seed nullify Clefairy's Magic Guard, but Gloom struggles to fit it over a STAB if it runs it with Leech Seed. Dropping Giga Drain makes Gloom worse into Kingler and Whiscash while dropping Sludge Bomb makes Gloom worse into Leafeon and Meganium. Gloom has great special bulk, but most specially offensive Pokemon in the tier such as Simisear, Glaceon, and Mr. Mime hit Gloom super effectively. Stench may appear to be less situational than Chlorophyll, but Gloom cannot run both Stench and Leech Seed on the same set. This should be explained in the set itself


Checks and Counters
===================
**Specially offensive Pokemon**: Grumpig, Simisear, Mr. Mime, and Glaceon have no problem blowing past Gloom with their powerful STAB moves. Other special attackers such as Raichu and Pikachu often run super effective coverage like Hidden Power Ice.

**Clefairy**: Even physically defensive Clefairy cannot be broken through by Gloom, as Sludge Bomb poisons and Leech Seed are denied by Clefairy's Magic Guard. Clefairy can weaken Gloom as a wall with Knock Off and Thunder Wave.

**Poison- and Steel-types**: Gloom has little besides Leech Seed to deal with Arbok and Muk, and Ivysaur is unaffected. Pawniard can use Gloom as an opportunity to set up while Wormadam-S can use it to set up Stealth Rock.

**Emolga**: Emolga is especially dangerous for Gloom between Flying Gem boosted Acrobatics, Taunt, Encore, and Knock Off, neutralizing Gloom as a wall if it doesn't just overwhelm it.

**Knock Off**: Gloom relies on Eviolite for a significant amount of its bulk, and losing it is problematic. Mienfoo and Persian are common physical attackers that can disrupt Gloom with Knock Off. Ivysaur, Emolga, and Clefairy commonly run Knock Off.

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[missangelic]

Thanks Gangsta Spongebob! This is ready for GP Team

 

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[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Sludge Bomb
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Synthesis
item: Eviolite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Gloom's convenient Grass/Poison Grass / Poison typing, solid defensive stats boosted by Eviolite, and reliable recovery make it a decent wall. Physical wallbreakers or and setup sweepers such as Leafeon, Meganium, Whiscash, and Kingler all struggle to break through Gloom without a boost, and all of them take massive damage from Gloom's Giga Drain and Sludge Bomb. Attacks from Stealth Rock setters such as Solrock, Wormadam-G, and Hippopotas hardly damage Gloom, giving Gloom free entry. Leech Seed makes Gloom less passive against physical attackers it struggles to damage, such as Muk, Pawniard, and Arbok. Leech Seed can support Gloom's teammates who that don't have any form of recovery, such as Lairon, Grumpig, and Walrein. Synthesis keeps Gloom healthy on its own, letting it take repeated attacks from physical pivots like Mienfoo or and Persian. Although Gloom is a physical wall, its natural special bulk and Poison-type enable it to sit on passive Pokemon like Frillish, Staryu, and Wormadam-S. Stench may seem less situational than Chlorophyll, but Stench and Leech Seed are is an illegal combo combination on Gloom.

Physically frail teammates like Clefairy, Raichu, and Mr. Mime appreciate Gloom taking on physical attackers like Leafeon and Mienfoo. In return, they check problematic specially offensive Pokemon like Simisear, Glaceon, and Grumpig. Gloom deals little damage to Poison-types like Muk and Arbok, so partners like Grumpig, Mr. Mime, Whiscash, and Solrock pair well with it. In exchange, Gloom can check bulky Grass-types and physical attackers like Meganium and Whiscash. Clefairy walls Gloom thanks to Magic Guard, so Mienfoo, Knock Off Persian, and Taunt Emolga make great partners. Gloom is dependent on its Eviolite for its bulk, so physical attackers like Persian and Mienfoo which that run Knock Off can be problematic for Gloom it. Partners like Solrock or and Emolga can help Gloom hold onto its item and check the aforementioned threats.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Gloom has access to support moves such as Stun Spore and Toxic, but Leech Seed's ability to wear down targets like Arbok, Muk, and Wormadam-S is more valuable. Gastro Acid or Worry Seed nullify nullifies Clefairy's Magic Guard, but Gloom struggles to fit it one of the moves over a STAB attack if it runs it one with Leech Seed. Dropping Giga Drain makes Gloom worse into Kingler and Whiscash, (AC) while dropping Sludge Bomb makes Gloom worse into Leafeon and Meganium. Gloom has great special bulk, but most specially offensive Pokemon in the tier such as Simisear, Glaceon, and Mr. Mime hit Gloom super effectively.


Checks and Counters
===================
**Specially offensive Offensive Pokemon**: Grumpig, Simisear, Mr. Mime, and Glaceon have no problem blowing past Gloom with their powerful STAB moves. Other special attackers such as Raichu and Pikachu often run super effective coverage like Hidden Power Ice.

**Clefairy**: Even physically defensive Clefairy cannot be broken through by Gloom, as Sludge Bomb poisons and Leech Seed are denied by Clefairy's Magic Guard Gloom cannot break through even physically defensive Clefairy, as Clefairy's Magic Guard denies Sludge Bomb poisoning and Leech Seed (making the voice consistent=active). Clefairy can weaken Gloom as a wall with Knock Off and Thunder Wave.

**Poison- and Steel-types**: Gloom has little besides Leech Seed to deal with Arbok and Muk, and Ivysaur is unaffected. Pawniard can use Gloom as an opportunity to set up, (AC) while Wormadam-S can use it to set up Stealth Rock.

**Emolga**: Emolga is especially dangerous for Gloom between with its Flying Gem-boosted (hyphen) Acrobatics, Taunt, Encore, and Knock Off, neutralizing Gloom as a wall if it Emolga doesn't just overwhelm it (or replace the it with gloom if gloom is the one overwhelming).

**Knock Off**: Gloom relies on Eviolite for a significant amount of its bulk, and losing it is problematic. Mienfoo and Persian are common physical attackers that can disrupt Gloom with Knock Off. Ivysaur, Emolga, and Clefairy commonly run Knock Off.

[CREDITS]
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[autumn]

1/1 GP Team done credit both of us

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[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Sludge Bomb
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Leech Seed
move 4: Synthesis
item: Eviolite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Gloom's convenient Grass/Poison Grass / Poison typing, solid defensive stats boosted by Eviolite, and reliable recovery make it a decent wall. Physical wallbreakers or and setup sweepers such as Leafeon, Meganium, Whiscash, and Kingler all struggle to break through Gloom without a boost, and all of them take massive damage from Gloom's Giga Drain and Sludge Bomb. Attacks from Stealth Rock setters such as Solrock, Wormadam-G, and Hippopotas hardly damage Gloom, giving Gloom it free entry. Leech Seed makes Gloom less passive against physical attackers it struggles to damage, such as Muk, Pawniard, and Arbok. Leech Seed can also support Gloom's teammates who that don't have any form of recovery, such as Lairon, Grumpig, and Walrein. Synthesis keeps Gloom healthy on its own, letting it take repeated attacks from physical pivots like Mienfoo or and Persian. Although Gloom is a physical wall, its natural special bulk and Poison-type Poison typing enable it to sit on passive Pokemon like Frillish, Staryu, and Wormadam-S. Stench may seem less situational than Chlorophyll, but Stench and Leech Seed are is an illegal combo combination on Gloom. (is this even worth mentioning if stench isnt an option at all)

Physically frail teammates like Clefairy, Raichu, and Mr. Mime appreciate Gloom taking on physical attackers like Leafeon and Mienfoo. In return, they check problematic specially offensive Pokemon like Simisear, Glaceon, and Grumpig. Gloom deals little damage to Poison-types like Muk and Arbok, so partners like Grumpig, Mr. Mime, Whiscash, and Solrock pair well with it. In exchange, Gloom can check bulky Grass-types and physical attackers like Meganium and Whiscash. Clefairy walls Gloom thanks to Magic Guard, so Mienfoo, Knock Off Persian, and Taunt Emolga make great partners. Gloom is dependent on its Eviolite for its bulk, so physical attackers like Persian and Mienfoo which that run Knock Off can be problematic for Gloom it. Partners like Solrock or and Emolga can help Gloom hold onto its item and check the aforementioned threats.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Gloom has access to support moves such as Stun Spore and Toxic, but Leech Seed's ability to wear down targets like Arbok, Muk, and Wormadam-S is more valuable. Gastro Acid or Worry Seed nullify nullifies Clefairy's Magic Guard, but Gloom struggles to fit it one of the moves over a STAB attack if it runs it one with Leech Seed. Dropping Giga Drain makes Gloom worse into Kingler and Whiscash, (AC) while dropping Sludge Bomb makes Gloom worse into Leafeon and Meganium. Gloom has great special bulk, but most specially offensive Pokemon in the tier such as Simisear, Glaceon, and Mr. Mime hit Gloom super effectively. (this isnt rly clear - are you proposing a spdef spread an an oo here? if you are, saying 'has great special bulk, so it could run a specially defensive EV spread, but...')


Checks and Counters
===================
**Specially offensive Offensive Pokemon**: Grumpig, Simisear, Mr. Mime, and Glaceon have no problem blowing past Gloom with their powerful STAB moves. Other special attackers such as Raichu and Pikachu often run super effective coverage like Hidden Power Ice.

**Clefairy**: Even physically defensive Clefairy cannot be broken through by Gloom, as Sludge Bomb poisons and Leech Seed are denied by Clefairy's Magic Guard Gloom cannot break through even physically defensive Clefairy, as its Magic Guard denies Sludge Bomb poisoning and Leech Seed (making the voice consistent=active). Clefairy can weaken Gloom as a wall with Knock Off and Thunder Wave.

**Poison- and Steel-types**: Gloom has little besides Leech Seed to deal with Arbok and Muk, and Ivysaur is unaffected. Pawniard can use Gloom as an opportunity to set up, (AC) while Wormadam-S can use it to set up Stealth Rock.

**Emolga**: Emolga is especially dangerous for Gloom between with its Flying Gem-boosted (hyphen) Acrobatics, Taunt, Encore, and Knock Off, neutralizing Gloom as a wall if it Emolga doesn't just overwhelm it (or replace the it with gloom if gloom is the one overwhelming).

**Knock Off**: Gloom relies on Eviolite for a significant amount of its bulk, and losing it is problematic. Mienfoo and Persian are common physical attackers that can disrupt Gloom with Knock Off. Ivysaur, Emolga, and Clefairy also commonly run Knock Off.

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