Buff Process 4 - Stage 3 - Buff Package Poll 1

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VOTE! Remember that these changes will impact Chromera. Here's the reasoning for every option on this slate:

New Type: Dark/Normal
+ Switcheroo
There were a lot of Dark/Normal submissions, and choosing between them was honestly quite difficult. I ended up going with snake's due to community feedback, and the simplicity of the buff overall is a huge positive for it. This leans more into a specs/scarf set than current mera thanks to having a significantly stronger turn 1 click, and switcheroo, and initial Dark-stab is a great tool for forcing damage onto steels. While the 4x weakness to Body Press (and other fighting moves) is definitely a drawback, its one that the power increase of this submission definitely justifies.

Final Submission

New type: Normal/Ghost
+Trick
+Will-o-wisp
-Calm Mind
-Scald
Perhaps the weirdest option submitted, Brambane's Normal/Ghost chromera shifts us into a stallbreaking/specs direction that's sorta reminiscent to earlier SS Hexpult sets. The typing ensures that we can dodge Color Change for afair while given our list of immunities, especially into a lot of common choiced mons, and Wisp is a relatively high power click into a number of prospective switchins. That said, removing Calm Mind does imply a bit of a paradigm shift.

Final Submission

Keep Type

+ Nasty Plot
+ Ice Beam
+ 15 Speed
- 15 def
Along with snake's submission, Amamama's is one of the most vouched for in this thread atm, and its not hard to see why. This keeps our current typing, and shifts us into a far more offensive direction with Nasty Plot and a significant speed increase. Ice Beam is added back, allowing for either Boomburst + Dark Pulse or Ice Beam + Tbolt sets, which adds a lot of ambiguity to setup sets, which is definitely appreciated. The speed increase also lets us leverage our bulk and typing better into Kartana, Astrolotl, and Blacephalon better.

Final Submission

New Type: Normal/Poison
+Ice Beam
+Switcheroo
+5 Speed
-5 Attack
Honestly it was very hard to choose between this and brown4side's submission, but ended up going for mystery duck's Normal/Poison submission as I felt that the minor speed increase was worth more to our viability than parting shot, in the presence of switcheroo. The choice of Ice Beam vs Heat Wave was also a hard choice, but overall just felt that mystery was a bit more relevant to Chromera's viability. Normal/Poison is definitely an interesting typing for us, preserving our existing Toxic immunity, and giving a very hard hitting turn 1 click in STAB boomburst, and focuses more on coverage as compared to Normal/Dark's stabs.

Final Submission

+30 HP
+15 Spa
+Ice Beam
+Flamethrower

-15 Atk
-30 Speed
-Final Gambit
-Scald
Another relatively different spread, this one preserves our current typing, preserves our current role, and provides very major buffs to both bulk and power at the cost of reducing our speed by a large amount. The switch to Flamethrower over Scald is relatively immaterial, and changes us from being walled by Ferro to being walled by Heatran, which is definitely valid for a slower spread. Overall this leans very hard into the tankier aspects of the mon, though it completely removes choice scarf as an option, despite making Specs a bit better.


New Type: Dark/Normal
+ Switcheroo
Final Submission

New type: Normal/Ghost
+Trick
+Will-o-wisp
-Calm Mind
-Scald
Final Submission

Keep Type

+ Nasty Plot
+ Ice Beam
+ 15 Speed
- 15 def
Final Submission

New Type: Normal/Poison
+Ice Beam
+Switcheroo
+5 Speed
-5 Attack
Final Submission

+30 HP
+15 Spa
+Ice Beam
+Flamethrower

-15 Atk
-30 Speed
-Final Gambit
-Scald


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The voting options are:
Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 2 by Brambane
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 5 by Tommaniacal


This poll will be open for 24 hours.
 

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Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 2 by Brambane

Package 5 by Tommaniacal
 

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Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 2 by Brambane
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
Package 4 by the mystery duck
 

snake

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Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 4 by the mystery duck

Package 2 by Brambane
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
 

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Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 5 by Tommaniacal

Package 2 by Brambane
 
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 2 by Brambane
 

Brambane

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Package 2 by Brambane
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
 

Zetalz

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Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 2 by Brambane
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
 
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
Package 2 by Brambane
Package 3 by Amamama
 
Package 2 by Brambane
Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
 

shnowshner

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Package 2 by Brambane
Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 3 by Amamama


(all of these are cool but brambane did an excellent job selling normal/ghost, i think the tier could benefit from having a bulky spinblocker that straight-up blanks ghost spam, and although the mirror matchup is awkward, i do like that it means you can sorta roadblock chromera with your own chromera and puts a good limit on it's ability to exceed expectations. ama's is last because i'm sick of setup sweepers)
 
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 5 by Tommaniacal

Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 2 by Brambane
 
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 2 by Brambane
 
Package 4 by the mystery duck
Package 1 by snake_rattler
Package 2 by Brambane
Package 3 by Amamama
Package 5 by Tommaniacal
 
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