Resource BDSP OU Speed Tiers

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Hi and welcome to the BDSP OU Speed Tiers (idea taken from the SS OU Subforum). This thread will provide a list with the Speed stat for different sets of the viable Pokemon in BDSP OU. Feel free, to tell me if you see a mistake, or if you want a spread to be added on a Pokemon (with some justification). I will try to update this as the metagame evolves and will include more spreads when we will have access to some usage stats.
Drizzle ban:

:pelipper:: Pelipper completely lost its niche with Drizzle being banned some I removed all its sets

:kabutops: removed the spread with a Swift Swim boost, but keeps those with a boost due to Rapid Spin

:kingdra:: I kept Kingdra at +2 Speed because Agility or manual Rain Kingdra could be a thing, even though it will probably have very low usage, will see if it is worth keeping Kingdra when we will have new usage stats

:ludicolo:: Removed it as its only niche was to be a rain abuser

:omastar:: Removed the spread with Swift Swim, but kept it and the +2 version because of Shell Smash

:poliwrath:: Removed it as its only niche was to be a rain abuser

:qwilfish:: Only kept the defensive set

Blaziken ban:

:blaziken: removed all the Blaziken sets

Manaphy ban:

:manaphy: removed all the Manaphy sets

Gengar ban:

:gengar: removed all the Gengar sets

30/07/2023 removed all the instances of :latios: Latios, addition of :celebi: Celebi and few key benchmarks addition.

Pokemon above 400

SpeedSpritePokemonBaseIVsEVsNatureBoosts
820​
:salamence:Salamence
100​
31​
252​
Positive
3​
820​
:flygon:Flygon
100​
31​
252​
Positive
3​
792​
:yanmega:Yanmega
95​
31​
252​
Positive
3​
792​
:sharpedo:Sharpedo
95​
31​
252​
Positive
3​
786​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
252​
Positive
4​
747​
:flygon:Flygon
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
3​
722​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
722​
:sharpedo:Sharpedo
95​
31​
252​
Neutral
3​
717​
:gyarados:Gyarados
81​
31​
252​
Positive
3​
717​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
4​
710​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Positive
3​
704​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
216​
Positive
2​
700​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Positive
3​
687​
:omastar:Omastar
55​
31​
252​
Positive
4​
656​
:salamence:Salamence
100​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
656​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
656​
:flygon:Flygon
100​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
652​
:gyarados:Gyarados
81​
31​
252​
Neutral
3​
647​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
3​
637​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
3​
634​
:yanmega:Yanmega
95​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
634​
:sharpedo:Sharpedo
95​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
634​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
627​
:omastar:Omastar
55​
31​
252​
Neutral
4​
612​
:porygon-z:Porygon-Z
90​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
612​
:lucario:Lucario
90​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
607​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
252​
Positive
3​
598​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
598​
:flygon:Flygon
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
590​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
0​
Neutral
3​
590​
:kingdra:Kingdra
85​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
588​
:rhyperior:Rhyperior
40​
31​
252​
Positive
4​
578​
:sharpedo:Sharpedo
95​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
578​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
574​
:gyarados:Gyarados
81​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
568​
:kabutops:Kabutops
80​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
568​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
560​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
560​
:blastoise:Blastoise
78​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
558​
:porygon-z:Porygon-Z
90​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
558​
:lucario:Lucario
90​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
541​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
541​
:raikou:Raikou
115​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
538​
:kingdra:Kingdra
85​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
532​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
0​
Neutral
2​
528​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
216​
Positive
1​
525​
:latias:Latias
110​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
524​
:victreebel:Victreebel
70​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
524​
:skarmory:Skarmory
70​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
524​
:metagross:Metagross
70​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
524​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
522​
:gyarados:Gyarados
81​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
519​
:infernape:Infernape
108​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
518​
:venusaur:Venusaur
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
518​
:kabutops:Kabutops
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
518​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
510​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
510​
:blastoise:Blastoise
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
508​
:mismagius:Mismagius
105​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
499​
:garchomp:Garchomp
102​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:typhlosion:Typhlosion
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:staraptor:Staraptor
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:salamence:Salamence
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:mew:Mew
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:jirachi:Jirachi
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:flygon:Flygon
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:celebi:Celebi
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
492​
:charizard:Charizard
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
486​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
480​
:empoleon:Empoleon
60​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
478​
:victreebel:Victreebel
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
478​
:metagross:Metagross
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
478​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
475​
:yanmega:Yanmega
95​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
475​
:sharpedo:Sharpedo
95​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
472​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
0​
Neutral
2​
459​
:porygon-z:Porygon-Z
90​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
458​
:omastar:Omastar
55​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
458​
:crawdaunt:Crawdaunt
55​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
448​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
448​
:flygon:Flygon
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
447​
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
447​
:rotom-heat:Rotom-Heat
86​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
442​
:nidoking:Nidoking
85​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
442​
:heracross:Heracross
85​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
438​
:empoleon:Empoleon
60​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
436​
:tangrowth:Tangrowth
50​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
436​
:magmortar:Magmortar
83​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
433​
:sharpedo:Sharpedo
95​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
430​
:gyarados:Gyarados
81​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:togekiss:Togekiss
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:kabutops:Kabutops
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:mamoswine:Mamoswine
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:gardevoir:Gardevoir
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:gallade:Gallade
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
420​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
418​
:omastar:Omastar
55​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
417​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
 
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ironwater

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Pokemon between 250 and 400
399​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
398​
:tangrowth:Tangrowth
50​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
397​
:honchkrow:Honchkrow
71​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
394​
:crobat:Crobat
130​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
394​
:aerodactyl:Aerodactyl
130​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
393​
:breloom:Breloom
70​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
392​
:rhyperior:Rhyperior
40​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
391​
:gyarados:Gyarados
81​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
388​
:kabutops:Kabutops
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
388​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
383​
:weavile:Weavile
125​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
382​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
372​
:alakazam:Alakazam
120​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
364​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
361​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
361​
:raikou:Raikou
115​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
361​
:azelf:Azelf
115​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
360​
:magnezone:Magnezone
60​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
354​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
352​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
216​
Positive
0​
352​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
0​
Neutral
2​
350​
:froslass:Froslass
110​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
350​
:latias:Latias
110​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
349​
:weavile:Weavile
125​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
346​
:infernape:Infernape
108​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
343​
:crawdaunt:Crawdaunt
55​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
339​
:mismagius:Mismagius
105​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
333​
:garchomp:Garchomp
102​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
330​
:infernape:Infernape
108​
31​
192​
Positive
0​
329​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
329​
:raikou:Raikou
115​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
328​
:zapdos:Zapdos
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:typhlosion:Typhlosion
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:celebi:Celebi
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:staraptor:Staraptor
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:salamence:Salamence
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:ninetales:Ninetales
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:mew:Mew
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:jirachi:Jirachi
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:flygon:Flygon
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:entei:Entei
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:charizard:Charizard
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
319​
:latias:Latias
110​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
317​
:yanmega:Yanmega
95​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
317​
:xatu:Xatu
95​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
317​
:sharpedo:Sharpedo
95​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
317​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
317​
:arcanine:Arcanine
95​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
315​
:infernape:Infernape
108​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
309​
:mismagius:Mismagius
105​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
306​
:roserade:Roserade
90​
31​
252​
Positif
0​
306​
:porygon-z:Porygon-Z
90​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
306​
:moltres:Moltres
90​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
306​
:lucario:Lucario
90​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
303​
:garchomp:Garchomp
102​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
300​
:jirachi:Jirachi
100​
31​
148​
Positive
0​
299​
:zapdos:Zapdos
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:typhlosion:Typhlosion
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:staraptor:Staraptor
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:salamence:Salamence
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:ninetales:Ninetales
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:mew:Mew
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:jirachi:Jirachi
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:flygon:Flygon
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:entei:Entei
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
299​
:charizard:Charizard
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
298​
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
298​
:rotom-heat:Rotom-Heat
86​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
295​
:suicune:Suicune
85​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
295​
:nidoking:Nidoking
85​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
295​
:kingdra:Kingdra
85​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
295​
:heracross:Heracross
85​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
291​
:magmortar:Magmortar
83​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
290​
:forretress:Forretress
40​
31​
0​
Neutral
3​
289​
:xatu:Xatu
95​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
289​
:sharpedo:Sharpedo
95​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
289​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
289​
:arcanine:Arcanine
95​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
288​
:blastoise:Blastoise
78​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
287​
:milotic:Milotic
81​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
287​
:gyarados:Gyarados
81​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
284​
:togekiss:Togekiss
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
284​
:mamoswine:Mamoswine
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
284​
:kabutops:Kabutops
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
284​
:gardevoir:Gardevoir
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
284​
:gallade:Gallade
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
284​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
280​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
280​
:blastoise:Blastoise
78​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
280​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
216​
Neutral
0​
279​
:roserade:Roserade
90​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
279​
:porygon-z:Porygon-Z
90​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
279​
:moltres:Moltres
90​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
279​
:lucario:Lucario
90​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
279​
:claydol:Claydol
75​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
278​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
273​
:smeargle:Smeargle
75​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
273​
:absol:Absol
75​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
272​
:donphan:Donphan
50​
31​
0​
Neutral
2​
271​
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
271​
:rotom-heat:Rotom-Heat
86​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
270​
:shaymin:Shaymin
100​
31​
136​
Neutral
0​
269​
:suicune:Suicune
85​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
269​
:nidoking:Nidoking
85​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
269​
:kingdra:Kingdra
85​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
269​
:heracross:Heracross
85​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
266​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
265​
:magmortar:Magmortar
83​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
265​
:honchkrow:Honchkrow
71​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
264​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
263​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
148​
Neutral
0​
263​
:shaymin:Shaymin
100​
31​
108​
Neutral
0​
262​
:victreebel:Victreebel
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
262​
:skarmory:Skarmory
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
262​
:metagross:Metagross
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
262​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
262​
:breloom:Breloom
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
261​
:milotic:Milotic
81​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
261​
:gyarados:Gyarados
81​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
259​
:venusaur:Venusaur
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
259​
:togekiss:Togekiss
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
259​
:kabutops:Kabutops
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
259​
:mamoswine:Mamoswine
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
259​
:gardevoir:Gardevoir
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
259​
:gallade:Gallade
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
259​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
258​
:exploud:Exploud
68​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
256​
:latias:Latias
110​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
256​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
148​
Positive
0​
255​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
255​
:blastoise:Blastoise
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
254​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
112​
Neutral
0​
253​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
251​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
 
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Pokemon under 250
249​
:absol:Absol
75​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
245​
:suicune:Suicune
85​
31​
156​
Neutral
0​
244​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
72​
Neutral
0​
244​
:jirachi:Jirachi
100​
31​
32​
Neutral
0​
243​
:zapdos:Zapdos
100​
31​
28​
Neutral
0​
243​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
241​
:honchkrow:Honchkrow
71​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
240​
:magnezone:Magnezone
60​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
240​
:empoleon:Empoleon
60​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
239​
:victreebel:Victreebel
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
239​
:metagross:Metagross
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
239​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
239​
:breloom:Breloom
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
236​
:zapdos:Zapdos
100​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
236​
:tentacruel:Tentacruel
100​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
236​
:celebi:Celebi
100​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
236​
:mew:Mew
100​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
236​
:jirachi:Jirachi
100​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
235​
:exploud:Exploud
68​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
232​
:forretress:Forretress
40​
31​
0​
Neutral
2​
230​
:rotom-heat:Rotom-Heat
86​
31​
88​
Neutral
0​
230​
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
88​
Neutral
0​
230​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
160​
Neutral
0​
229​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
229​
:omastar:Omastar
55​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
229​
:crawdaunt:Crawdaunt
55​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
226​
:xatu:Xatu
95​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
226​
:uxie:Uxie
95​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
226​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
226​
:arcanine:Arcanine
95​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
221​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
220​
:skarmory:Skarmory
70​
31​
176​
Neutral
0​
219​
:magnezone:Magnezone
60​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
219​
:empoleon:Empoleon
60​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
219​
:abomasnow:Abomasnow
60​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
218​
:tangrowth:Tangrowth
50​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
218​
:azumarill:Azumarill
50​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
216​
:moltres:Moltres
90​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
210​
:breloom:Breloom
70​
31​
136​
Neutral
0​
210​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
80​
Neutral
0​
210​
:milotic:Milotic
81​
31​
48​
Neutral
0​
210​
:Rotom-Wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
8​
Neutral
0​
209​
:omastar:Omastar
55​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
209​
:machamp:Machamp
55​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
209​
:crawdaunt:Crawdaunt
55​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
208​
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
208​
:rotom-heat:Rotom-Heat
86​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
206​
:suicune:Suicune
85​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
206​
:qwilfish:Qwilfish
85​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
206​
:cresselia:Cresselia
85​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
204​
:donphan:Donphan
50​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
200​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
168​
Neutral
0​
200​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
31​
136​
Neutral
0​
200​
:milotic:Milotic
91​
31​
8​
Neutral
0​
200​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
40​
Neutral
0​
199​
:tangrowth:Tangrowth
50​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
199​
:azumarill:Azumarill
50​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
198​
:milotic:Milotic
81​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
196​
:togekiss:Togekiss
80​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
196​
:rhyperior:Rhyperior
40​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
196​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
192​
:blastoise:Blastoise
78​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
190​
:torkoal:Torkoal
20​
31​
0​
Neutral
3​
190​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
186​
:claydol:Claydol
75​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
179​
:shedinja:Shedinja
40​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
179​
:rhyperior:Rhyperior
40​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
176​
:breloom:Breloom
70​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
176​
:skarmory:Skarmory
70​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
176​
:mantine:Mantine
70​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
176​
:cloyster:Cloyster
70​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
175​
:uxie:Uxie
95​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
174​
:forretress:Forretress
40​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
166​
:umbreon:Umbreon
65​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
166​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
158​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
157​
:cresselia:Cresselia
85​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
156​
:weezing:Weezing
60​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
156​
:swampert:Swampert
60​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
156​
:empoleon:Empoleon
60​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
156​
:clefable:Clefable
60​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
156​
:abomasnow:Abomasnow
60​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
152​
:torkoal:Torkoal
20​
31​
0​
Neutral
2​
146​
:blissey:Blissey
55​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
136​
:tangrowth:Tangrowth
50​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
136​
:donphan:Donphan
50​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
130​
:hippowdon:Hippowdon
47​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
126​
:crawdaunt:Crawdaunt
55​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
122​
:tangrowth:Tangrowth
50​
31​
0​
Negative
0​
121​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
116​
:rhyperior:Rhyperior
40​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
116​
:forretress:Forretress
40​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
114​
:torkoal:Torkoal
20​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
114​
:gastrodon:Gastrodon
39​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
106​
:quagsire:Quagsire
35​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
103​
:machamp:Machamp
55​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
102​
:gastrodon:Gastrodon
39​
31​
0​
Negative
0​
102​
:bronzong:Bronzong
33​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
96​
:snorlax:Snorlax
30​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
96​
:slowking:Slowking
30​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
96​
:slowbro:Slowbro
30​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
95​
:marowak:Marowak
45​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
85​
:rhyperior:Rhyperior
40​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
76​
:torkoal:Torkoal
20​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
76​
:forretress:Forretress
40​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
63​
:bronzong:Bronzong
33​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
58​
:snorlax:Snorlax
30​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
58​
:slowking:Slowking
30​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
58​
:slowbro:Slowbro
30​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
46​
:shuckle:Shuckle
5​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
40​
:torkoal:Torkoal
20​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
 
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There is a typo on a bunch of the Tentacruel calcs. Its a Base 100 Speed Pokemon and isnt grouped with the rest. Only really matters because Rapid Spin gives it a Speed boost in this game.
 

igiveuponaname

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I noticed a small error on the "pokemon under 250" table where the empoleon listed with a 240 speed stat is listed as having a neutral nature when it should be positive.
 

igiveuponaname

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I am currently updating the Speed Tiers table. Feel free to report any relevant speed tiers that comes to your mind.
108 neutral on :shaymin: hits 263 which outspeeds 252+ Breloom and other base 70s

Also this isn't so much about a speed tier but rather would it be possible to kind of... clean up this thread a bit? There are multiple instances of mons who share the same speed tier using the same speed investment being listed in separate rows. The most egregious examples are the twelve rows of base 100s with 252+ speed, at that point it just clutters up the thread even if it showcases the information you need. If that's too much to ask for right now then that's fine, I'm just curious if it's possible.

Good work as always
 

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108 neutral on :shaymin: hits 263 which outspeeds 252+ Breloom and other base 70s
Good catch on the Shaymin, I had also run a bit more for Heracross. Will add both.


Also this isn't so much about a speed tier but rather would it be possible to kind of... clean up this thread a bit? There are multiple instances of mons who share the same speed tier using the same speed investment being listed in separate rows. The most egregious examples are the twelve rows of base 100s with 252+ speed, at that point it just clutters up the thread even if it showcases the information you need. If that's too much to ask for right now then that's fine, I'm just curious if it's possible.
This is a tricky question I'm trying to solve since I'm working on it. Specifically about what you said, my way to use the table is by doing a research on the page so if you get rid of each iteration you can't do the research anymore.

This is not my only problem. Multiple pokemon or sets are mostly irrelevant, especially since ladder died. That said, the cost of having +3 Yanmega in the table is relatively low. Same goes for minus nature Snorlax for example, etc.

So my question would be more what people expect from this table that I've found really useful when I started BDSP but is taking the dust since a while now. How do you use it or how you would like to use it ?
 

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Here is a proposition of what could look like a revamped of the Speed Tier. I wanted it to be more focus on a tournament environment as BDSP OU doesn't have ladder anymore but still being accessible to newer players that would like to participate in the said tours, hence some references to sets and the bold on key benchmarks. I got rid of benchmarks that needs more than one boost both for clarity, lack of utility, and because they follow a gradation that never changes after a first boost.

Tell me what you think about it and if you have other ideas that could be implemented.

Hi and welcome to the BDSP OU Speed Tiers (idea taken from the SS OU Subforum). This thread will provide a list with the Speed stat for different sets of the viable Pokemon in BDSP OU. Feel free, to tell me if you see a mistake, or if you want a spread to be added on a Pokemon (with some justification).

'Pokemon*' means either the Pokemon or the strategy using the said speed tier is considered niche in the current metagame.
'Pokemon' means the said speed tier is meta-defining. Lot of sets are built in consideration of those said speed tiers.
Pokemon with no specified set means that all their popular speed tier have the same set.

SpeedSpritePokemonBaseIVsEVsNatureBoostSet
590​
:kingdra:Kingdra*
85​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
541​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
Offensive
528​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
216​
Positive
1​
Utility
524​
:cloyster:Cloyster*
70​
31​
252​
Positive​
2​
524​
:poliwrath:Poliwrath*
70​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
Rain Belly Drum
524​
:victreebel:Victreebel*
70​
31​
252​
Positive
2​
510​
:blastoise:Blastoise*
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
2​
508​
:mismagius:Mismagius
105​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
Scarf
499
:garchomp:Garchomp
102​
31​
252
Positive
1
Scarf
492​
:celebi:Celebi
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
Scarf
492​
:salamence:Salamence
100​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
Scarf/Dragon Dance
454​
:garchomp:Garchomp
102​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
Scarf
448​
:staraptor:Staraptor
100​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
447​
:rotom-mow:Rotom-Mow
86​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
447​
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
Scarf
430​
:gyarados:Gyarados*
81​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:gardevoir:Gardevoir*
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:medicham:Medicham
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
426​
:togekiss:Togekiss
80​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
Scarf
420​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Positive
1​
394​
:aerodactyl:Aerodactyl*
130​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
388​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
383​
:weavile:Weavile
125​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
382​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
1​
372​
:alakazam:Alakazam
120​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
361​
:azelf:Azelf
115​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
361​
:raikou:Raikou
115​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
361​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Offensive
352​
:starmie:Starmie
115​
31​
216​
Positive
0​
Utility
350​
:espeon:Espeon*
110​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
350
:latias:Latias
110
31
252
Positive
0
346​
:infernape:Infernape
108​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
339​
:mismagius:Mismasgius
105​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Non Scarf Sets
333
:garchomp:Garchomp
102
31
252
Positive
0
Non Scarf Sets
328​
:entei:Entei
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
328​
:mew:Mew
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Offensive
328​
:salamence:Salamence
100​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Dragon Dance/Special
317​
:yanmega:Yanmega*
95​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
308​
:celebi:Celebi
100​
31​
176​
Positive
0​
Pivot
306​
:roserade:Roserade
90​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
298​
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Pivot
295​
:nidoking:Nidoking
85​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
287​
:gyarados:Gyarados*
81​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
286​
:suicune:Suicune
85​
31​
216​
Positive
0​
284​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
284​
:mamoswine:Mamoswine
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
284​
:togekiss:Togekiss
80​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Utlity/Offensive
281​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
120​
Positive
0​
Utility
281​
:zapdos:Zapdos
100​
31​
80​
Positive
0​
Utility
280​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
279
:lucario:Lucario
90
31
252
Neutral
0
278​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Offensive
273​
:smeargle:Smeargle*
75​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
269​
:heracross:Heracross
85​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
269​
:kingdra:Kingdra
85​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
263​
:shaymin:Shaymin
100​
31​
108​
Neutral
0​
262​
:breloom:Breloom
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Choice Band
262​
:cloyster:Cloyster*
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
262​
:poliwrath:Poliwrath*
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Rain Belly Drum
262​
:skarmory:Skarmory
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
Lead Spikes
262​
:victreebel:Victreebel*
70​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
259​
:dragonite:Dragonite
80​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
256​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
120​
Neutral
0​
SpDef
255​
:blastoise:Blastoise*
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
255​
:feraligatr:Feraligatr
78​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
253​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
Offensive
241​
:jirachi:Jirachi
100​
31​
20​
Neutral
0​
241​
:mew:Mew
100​
31​
20​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
241​
:zapdos:Zapdos
100​
31​
20​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
240​
:magnezone:Magnezone
60​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
239​
:breloom:Breloom
70​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
SD
230​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
160​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
229​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
Life Orb
226​
:gliscor:Gliscor
95​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
221​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
252​
Neutral
0​
Choice Band
218​
:aggron:Aggron*
50​
31​
252​
Positive
0​
210​
:cresselia:Cresselia*
85​
31​
16​
Neutral
0​
Calm Mind
210​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
80​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
210​
:milotic:Milotic
81​
31​
48​
Neutral
0​
210​
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash
86​
31​
8​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
210​
:togekiss:Togekiss
80​
31​
56​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
209
:crawdaunt:Crawdaunt
55
31
252
Neutral
0​
204​
:donphan:Donphan*
50​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
200​
:heatran:Heatran
77​
31​
40​
Neutral
0​
200​
:milotic:Milotic
81​
31​
8​
Neutral
0​
199
:azumarill:Azumarill
50
31
252
Neutral
0​
177​
:azumarill:Azumarill
50​
31​
164​
Neutral
0​
176​
:skarmory:Skarmory
70​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
167​
:tyranitar:Tyranitar
61​
31​
112​
Negative
0​
Lead
167​
:weezing:Weezing*
60​
31​
44​
Neutral
0​
166​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
Defensive
158​
:poliwrath:Poliwrath
70​
31​
0​
Negative
0​
PhysDef
157​
:cresselia:Cresselia*
85​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
Trick Room Setter
157​
:volbeat:Volbeat*
85​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
156​
:clefable:Clefable
60​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
156​
:empoleon:Empoleon*
60​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
149​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
31​
0​
Negative
0​
Defensive
146​
:blissey:Blissey
55​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
136​
:azumarill:Azumarill
50​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
136​
:donphan:Donphan*
50​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
136​
:tangrowth:Tangrowth
50​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
122​
:tangrowth:Tangrowth
50​
31​
0​
Negative
0​
121​
:scizor:Scizor
65​
0​
0​
Negative
0​
Defensive
114​
:gastrodon:Gastrodon
39​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
114​
:torkoal:Torkoal*
20​
31​
0​
Neutral
1​
106​
:quagsire:Quagsire
35​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
96​
:slowbro:Slowbro
30​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
96​
:slowking:Slowking
30​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
95​
:quagsire:Quagsire
35​
31​
0​
Negative
0​
76​
:torkoal:Torkoal*
20​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
46​
:shuckle:Shuckle*
5​
31​
0​
Neutral
0​
 
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