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It probably was never redone when it droped after hype because there much better stuff to run so there was more important mons to work on is my guess.
No, it's just unranked and really bad here but ranked in nu. This also happened with sliggoo, it only has an nu analysis because it's usable there but not ranked here.
 
Are there any written rules about complex bans ? When is a tier allowed to perform one and when is it not ? And why hasn't the PU leaders perform a complex ban concerning Machoke + DPunch ?
 

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Are there any written rules about complex bans ? When is a tier allowed to perform one and when is it not ? And why hasn't the PU leaders perform a complex ban concerning Machoke + DPunch ?
Smogon generally is against complex bans, only allowing them when necessary, PU was basically told that we couldn't complex ban anything regarding dpunch
 
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Question: Can PU ban speedpass without a suspect because it's banned in NU, even though we decided not to at first? I'm not suggested that it's the best suspect, just a question, because it leaving the tier doesn't seem too bad + it's annoying, and if we don't have to spend the two weeks suspecting it would be totally up for banning it

e: I know a suspect is probably where this is going if there is one at all, but I still want to know :3
 
we are not banning something without suspecting it first, or at least council voting it.

this will apply to this situation in particular because the main offender, Combusken, is not in PU, and PU doesn't even have a good Magic Bounce user.

Also probably nothing is going to happen
 

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galbia said:
we are not banning something without suspecting it first, or at least council voting it.

this will apply to this situation in particular because the main offender, Combusken, is not in PU, and PU doesn't even have a good Magic Bounce user.

Also probably nothing is going to happen
I know, but I'm just curious if my situation is possible or not, I know that a suspect is the obvious thing if there's anything done about it
 

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Is Mienfoo viable now that Machoke is banned? Regenerator + being a decent Rock resist seems like a good enough niche.
 

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Is Mienfoo viable now that Machoke is banned? Regenerator + being a decent Rock resist seems like a good enough niche.
Mienfoo has always been "viable" even with Machoke here. It's mostly outclassed by Monferno when it comes to any sort of offensive set however Mienfoo has great utility options in knock off, regenerator, BU pass, SD pass, Subpass, and even CM pass. Overall Mienfoo is a cool mon you should try out and experiment with but don't expect it to fill Machoke's shoes. Mienfoo is not a very good rock resist as most rock types can 2hko with their coverage moves unless you are running a sizeable chunk of bulk.
 
Ok so which move is more useful on Misdreavus, Dazzling Gleam or Hidden Power Fighting?
Gleam can hit vullaby as well. Hp fighting gives you the ability to OHKO Pawniard if you choose to play that 50/50. Vullaby isn't too common right now though, so running hp fighting is generally a better option imo too.
 
if you want to hit vullaby you may as well just use thunderbolt which not only hits vullaby harder than gleam but gets coverage on a lot more than gleam

e: yeah that's fair, forgot about that mon lol
 
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Speaking of Cacturne, what viable checks are there aside from Monferno? As of right now it 6-0s my team, but Monferno doesn't fit.
I'm really glad Muk dropped along with Cacturne because it happens to be a good check. Vullaby is another option because it resists Cacturne's STAB moves and can easily take a Focus Blast or Superpower. It also gets U-turn which Cacturne does not want to be hit with, even if Vullaby doesn't have much attack power.
 
So what are the Muk sets being used in PU right now? Is the suggested NU set viable? I've been thinking of squeezing him onto my team.
 

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Could there be a possible niche for Sliggoo in this tier, or is it just outdone by everything else?
 
Could there be a possible niche for Sliggoo in this tier, or is it just outdone by everything else?
Sliggo can be used on rain teams with rest and hydration with a setup move such as curse or else it can be a rain setter but not with damp rock. Use eviolite.
 

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I can't really recommend sliggoo for rain seeing how slow and passive it is on an aggressive style. People have tried everything from curse to bulky attacker but all of them run into the same problem of not being too strong, bulky, fast, or particularly good at anything. In most cases, Altaria or simply some other bulky specially defensive mon like clefairy should do better
 
Just wondering, if pokemon on the Viability Rankings are listed by viability up until B-, how does one determine a pu mons viability below those ranks?
 

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Just wondering, if pokemon on the Viability Rankings are listed by viability up until B-, how does one determine a pu mons viability below those ranks?
they're all approximately the same viability (theoretically), and just ordered in alphabetical order instead. The distinction of whether stuff like seaking or avalugg is better just isn't too important which is why we don't bother
 

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