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  1. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion [ UPDATE POST #1293]

    My guy I literally quoted that post.
  2. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion [ UPDATE POST #1293]

    In every mechanic iteration except banning just tera blast, we are now giving information that otherwise is not available to the player for a mechanic. If we break down piece by piece what Tera is: All six pokemon innately have access to one type change. (Limiting Tera mons takes apart this...
  3. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion [ UPDATE POST #1293]

    Yeah it really sucks when one side of the discussion is made by reasonable individuals and the side you stand closer to is the entire fucking circus. Every time someone trying to defend Tera for partial or full remaining, it's like an undercover agent has played Opening Entry of the Gladiators...
  4. Porygon2Bandit

    Pokémon Chi-Yu

    Yeah I realized that like 2 days ago. So no it doesn't stop Chi Yu whatsoever. Which basically means TTar, Blissey, or you run a bunch of checks that can tank Chi Yu situationally (so Sylveon + Garganacl). Assault vest huge power azumarill popped up as a potential answer too.
  5. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion [ UPDATE POST #1293]

    So what's the 'inherent issue with Terastallization' (specifically as it relates to "tera types revealed at team preview")? The guess on the turn they choose to use it? Because there were situations like this in 7 where you would knock off a mon, nothing comes off, and know that had to be a...
  6. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion [ UPDATE POST #1293]

    But isn't the vein you're arguing initially is that these '50/50s' are in a Tera preview set where you KNOW the tera type? Since this stems from acquiesceyourself's point here: So the '2-4 different potential types' is largely irrelevant. The decision with a tera available to use is Move +...
  7. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion [ UPDATE POST #1293]

    I would absolutely want a ban before this, as someone who likes Tera. The idea that you give it to be an offensive adaptability mechanic and gut any defensive utility to me is an implementation that funamentally changes viability of archetypes for a complex ban. Now, defensive mons just have to...
  8. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion [ UPDATE POST #1293]

    So is 'when do i click it' an option you see as uncompetitive? Unpredictability exists inherently in a game where most of your stats are disguised. We can make reasonable assumptions about sets at preview and spreads, the same way you would be able to make a reasonable assumption on when a...
  9. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion [ UPDATE POST #1293]

    There's gonna be some real walls in this thread we'll have to climb but I just want to throw some short commentary out. I think Tera Blast ban is irrelevant. It solves nothing and also removes a lot of the upside to more non-problematic tera users without really solving what people consider the...
  10. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Also the community is a bunch of apes. Signed, the community. Realistically we run quick bans and expect the council to do the heavy lifting early because there's multiple mons that need actions/decisions immediately and a suspect test is a very long process. Imagine if we were in a suspect...
  11. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Well, the coding not being resolved is the major reason.
  12. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    My guy you're 2 bans in after a week. Potentially 4 done by 2, with only 2 pokemon being discluded from OU tiering of the entire pool. This is a pretty liberal approach to tiering OU. Go back to 4chan.
  13. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    For our people concerned about the fate of all the mons on the radar, I've heard a direct finch quote about each of them: "You are on the council but we do not grant you the seat of OU." RIP Smogon ban all 8 Being honest, right now I think Sylveon is just better as a wisher. If anything, use...
  14. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    I have tried Toadscruel along with two wish supporters (Sylveon, Fire Tera Vaporeon) and found the exact same thing. Absolutely dumb 4MSS to the point of dehabilitating any possible sets. Mycelium Might is crazy good vs Gholdengo (you can just spore it lmao) but everywhere else its kinda bad...
  15. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    How is this unique to Gholdengo again? Doesn't literally EVERY ghost type cause this scenario exactly? "Lose the mon, but the hazards are still there". Are we now discussing banning ghosts altogether? Because to be clear, every ghost in tier can do this to every hazard remover except Corv. And...
  16. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Why is the entire front half of your argument about a mon beating an entire team? Of course Treads/Tusks aren't beating an entire team themselves, they're spinners with good offensive presence. Not "incredibly broken mon that can 6-0 without the help of their own team". Bringing in these shadowy...
  17. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Because 'shits on all of them' is a hell of a way to put it especially when that '50/50' is "does gholdengo want to eat 75%+ of its health bar to a knock off on an expected switch". And if you lose that bet to Gholdengo coming in, you're pivoting out to play the game again. It's exactly one mon...
  18. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Do you not understand the relationship between a spinner and a spinblocker on which has to switch in? Because I can spell it out: A spin blocker needs to SWITCH IN to the spinner. Not the other way around.
  19. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Boots, which of course if you're running Gholdengo, you're committing to some level of hazard wincon.
  20. Porygon2Bandit

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Guys there's literally a host of spinners and a defogger currently in the game that force out Gholdengo. Torkoal, Iron Treads, Great Tusks, and a Talonflame defogger (Granted, probably never being used) all can win this fight. Glimmora can even threaten Gholdengo from switching to block Mortal...
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