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he made a good tier list to help people that don't know gsc well. the sub categories is too broad and will create more disagreements. everyone's personal tier list will be a different because it's too difficult to judge a pokemon's overall efficiency. New players should understand from this that...

ursaring sucks though anything on the tier list is better. his versatility earned him that rank. he's really not that overpowered in any particular category (sweeping, mixed attacking, etc). think of it this way. if snorlax didn't exist, the concept for the item leftovers probably wouldn't...

he's clearly op, why isn't he banned yet? sometimes I think of leaving snorlax off a team and try something else only to laugh and realize he can fill almost any role. He could even be used to charm with decent results. people sometimes would prefer "no nypc" which I felt was an acceptable...

pivot passer...interesting. does the mean look baton pass set work here? umby can still be used to charm and play defense. how many pokemon should the core be? 4?

If any of those switch in to his sludge bomb an explosion would finish them off. maybe not suicune at 100%, but I'm sure there will be an opportunity to boom fast. don't see the need to curse.

I don't use growth teams but someone that does should post their knowledge because they're scary. Jolteon does it best, and can switch in easy on the electric gods. Espeon does have that morning sun though and you can bring zapdos without having two electrics. Vap is a distant third because...

why run curse on a boom purpose muk when you lose coverage? Would rather see like sludge bomb, thunder, giga drain, explosion to wreck the rocks and open teams up quicker. hit and move. I only tried muk a few times and dumped him so idk just seems good on paper. lols omastar walls your...

i've always liked skarm + tyranitar to wall both fb and eq curselaxes. it fits well as a standard team with the combination above + op's. tyranitar is versatile and adds somewahat unpredictable offense.

the stall is what makes gsc though....it's supposed to be very difficult to get the first kill. gsc is all mind games. celebi got banned because it's annoying and never dies. Not the best grounds to ban it but it happened. Ho-oh ban is a mystery but it probabaly has something cheap that it...

this is hilarious. It's like everyone has these bottled up strong feelings towards the rules of this gen and the idea of them being changed even though no one barely battles anymore is like rewriting the bible to christians. I mean I checked this forum a few months ago and there was nothing...

Having to waste a slot on your team keeping one of those 3 pokes around just to stop hypnomissy is setting yourself up to lose majority of battles. Please don't mention raichu ever again. You probabaly forgot or haven't faced a hypnomissy in awhile. The worst part about hypnomissy is that you...

Yea starmie does seem to either sit there or save your ass. It stops some threats like marowak, curselax (starmie with reflect, most curselax don't use blam), zard, rhydon, tyranitar, etc. however it's never the best counter for any of those exept maybe charizard. lol. Also it's usually one...

mirror coat smeargle would definitely catch me off guard, but is it ever killing anything? i think it's spore, spikes, mirror coat, recover? lol 'standard' smeargle.

Roar raikou has to rest at some point, but if he's also got steelix then yea there's almost no hope. I've seen like 2 smeargles and they didn't do anything lol. Wouldn't some good player have made this thing work by now? Losing just 1 pokemon 70% of the time vs 30% free win or whatever seems...

lol forgot how wrap worked. Yea anyway... was gonna suggest ampho doesn't belong earlier, but felt jorgen was tired of making changes. It's completely outclassed by the legends. Don't like agil pass smeargle idea though. if it works then go for it it, I just think jolteon is way better at it...

Hooray for hp legend abundance. Tentacruel usually shouldn't try to set up on zap unless the tentacruel player is losing and in a bad situation. The mistake is when a player leading in the battle relies on thunder zapdos to counter cruel, when skarm/snorlax could've been a safer switch. It's as...

ok yea you're right it's 37%. Wow i wasn't even close. I thought gengar had above average special defense....248!? lol. Yea that's the main issue. 3 most ou pokemon zapdos, snorlax, skarm all do well against tenta. Skarms actually good at wasting hydro pumps. At the same time all 3 of those...

The things is you will kill skarm/lix slower with hp ground moveset than you would kill tyranitar/rhydon with the fire blast variant. Sorry this is a bit confusing. Anyway while this favours your argument the major difference is that lix/skarm don't hurt clefable much, but tyranitar/rhydon can...

Kingdra banned in UU, snorlax legal OU is pretty hilarious. Even though I'm sure that kingdra has a serious advantage over that tier. UU metagame must have really evolved in the later years. lol kingdra

yea but you get to merc tyranitar and rhydon. With hp ground you hit everything>50% damage except skarm and steelix i think. Meh I never did look into the hp drop if it's more than a 30 health difference than it makes ghost interesting.