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You are essentially banning one specific pokemon from using a universal mechanic (tera) because it becomes broken with it. There's no spinning it, that's a complex ban.

On the subject of Palafin, since its inclusion on the survey is probably the most surprising to people, I do think it getting a shot is less ridiculous than it may seem but now is not the time. Bulk Up Taunt would definitely be less consistent at bullying certain bulky waters if any or all of...

Not to be rude or whatever, but what is even the point of having a survey if a pokemon that y'all didn't deem worth putting on the survey, and a mon that didn't actually get that much support for a ban just get quickbanned from the tier <1 week later without a larger vote anyway.

Not saying Eleki wouldn't be too good anyway (as long as tera exists feels like it probs would be), but idk why we're pretending a ~15% damage nerf to the main moves it's spamming is completely meaningless.

Marshadow was like almost a week iirc

Y'all gotta stop with the BST argument as if there's not more to a pokemon. Especially when shit like 680 BST Hoopa is in the game and there's plenty of pokemon being talked about being way more broken than it.

Can't cap this announcement per day thing was very painful, thank god they had mercy on us.

Thing with something like Gorilla Tactics is it's impossible to ever prove as broken in isolation when stuff like Huge Power is objectively better. But yeah its on a mon with 140 attack and amazing coverage and made it broken. That's why its so hard to actually prove abilities/moves are broken...

With last respects will we have to consider whether or not Basculin is actually broken with the move? Or will people just not care and want the move banned if it means the others are free.

Think it's cuz it like actually lost some stuff. No gravity hurts it against Corv, no superpower hurt it against stuff like Bliss, dont have options like knock off, rock polish and others. Is it broken anyway? Yeah probably, but it really depends just how aggressive you want to be on a...

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Do we know jet punch's bp?

No harm in locking the thread anyway, pretty much nothing new has been added in days it's very clear 95% of people already agree on what needs to be done with darm.

Like someone said earlier you wouldn't ban Multiscale in UU cuz only Dragonite has it so you can use that ban to nerf Dragonite, or let's say in the future ban Libero to nerf Cinderace since it is technically a unique ability. If you're banning abilities you're admitting aren't broken to...

The form is tied to Zen Mode so like how old Darm was banned from UU and Zen mode was still banned despite obvs not being broken the same applies here. If Garchomp were to have been banned for example, Mega Garchomp wouldn't be banned as well even if technically the form change is tied to...

Darm is clearly unhealthy in the metagame and we already wasted 2 weeks on a dynamax suspect when it was very clearly broken and the outcome is inevitable. I am in favor of just quickbanning Darm but if for some reason we do waste time on a suspect again Darm should absolutely not be on the...

I do not know why people continue to ask about different ways to modify the mechanic to make it weaker (something that won't be done) instead of just admitting the mechanic is broken. If you think it isn't broken fine, talk about what you think the counterplay is and why you think it isn't...