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  1. Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Beauty and the Boost - Pheromosa is now banned

    GoldDraconian If you want to see people disagreeing on stuff, I highly, highly suggest you pull up the Dugtrio suspect archive (should be somewhere on the first two pages on this forum). In there you will find substantial disagreement on what dugtrio did, how well he did it, what teams he...
  2. Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Beauty and the Boost - Pheromosa is now banned

    I do not in any way, shape or form speak for the council, but I doubt this will happen. This is hardly the first time Smogon has had a lopsided suspect (the fact that the more recent suspects this gen were not lopsided were more plesent surprises then anything else), and there is no real...
  3. Announcement SM OU Suspect Process, Round 2 - Dirt

    I think a large part of the reason why people are more ok with banning random offensive mons then they are with banning stall mons is that there is simply more offensive mons then there are defensive ones. If gren gets banned, people can fairly easily put in a different fast and versatile...
  4. Announcement SM OU Suspect Process, Round 2 - Dirt

    Having been at least somewhat involved in OU suspect discussions for the past several years, I think you are heavily exaggerating how bad this thread is. While it is certainly true that there is some shitposting going on, it's not really any more then any other suspect and doesn't even come...
  5. Announcement SM OU Suspect Process, Round 2 - Dirt

    I disagree on the idea that using Dugtrio is a "no risk" proposition. If you are getting duggy in against zard-x at all, that generally means either A you lost a mon or B you made a very good prediction and swapped duggy in on a setup move of some sort. In the former, stall teams are often...
  6. Announcement SM OU Suspect Process, Round 2 - Dirt

    Here's the issue with this line of thinking: Dugtrio doesn't have 8 moveslots, it has 4. So it can't run all of EQ, Stone Edge, Reversal, Screech, Toxic, Memento, and Sucker Punch. It also only has 1 item slot, meaning it has to choose one of sash, rocknium z, fightnium z, groundnium z, band...
  7. SM OU Baton pass is back: 4.0 (need help)

    Here's the issue with miracle eye: your opponent can just swap out before tanking the stored power. This allows a dark type to get in 4 or 5 hits prior to you actually being able to hit him. At some point, this will mean screens being off and possibly a crit, ending your sweep. If your opponent...
  8. Announcement SM OU Suspect Process, Round 2 - Dirt

    re: "why are we suspecting Dugtrio now as opposed to before" So trapping has always been an interesting ability. It's interesting because every trapper is capable of doing exactly 1 thing in the entire game: removes exactly 1 opposing threat (revenge killing usually) give your team exactly 1...
  9. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    I am slightly confused by the bolded phrase. Did you mean to say that it makes more sense to drop weavile then it did to raise Mamoswine to B+? Or did you intend to say that Mamoswine should be raised to B+? The latter makes more sense given the sentence, but would clearly contradict the pretty...
  10. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    The issue with this line of thinking is that most of her moves are fairly easy to wall by common pokemon, so if you choose wrong you're losing momentum. Even if you choose the correct move, it's unlikely that she'll sweep because you're either locked into a STAB that's walled by multiple pokemon...
  11. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Type: Null Unranked -> C Rank I think Type: Null deserves some mention as a slow bulky pivot and para spreader. At 95/95/95 defenses with eviolite, he's actually bulkier then Porygon 2 and his U-Turn ensures that he's not a total momentum sap on your team. His slowness is actually an advantage...
  12. Pokémon Kommo-o

    All I will say is that this guy will check the heck out of Chandy and Gengar in UU...
  13. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    Hardly. NU was on the verge of banning flechlander, who is considerably weaker then talonflame (even now). Talonflame is likely going to wind up like gen 5/6 Darmantian, a very solid UU mon with hard hitting STAB(s), but generally outclassed in OU.
  14. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    I think part of that has to do with "tested and true syndrome", in that people are more likely to go after the old stuff that has always been good instead of the new thing that doesn't immediately look good. It's a big part of the reason why aegislash was so widely used in the beginning of the...
  15. Ah, Xernas > Megamence? Good to know. I have to admit I'm not super duper familiar with the...

    Ah, Xernas > Megamence? Good to know. I have to admit I'm not super duper familiar with the Ubers metagame. Needless to say the rest of the post still stands.
  16. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    A few notes 1. We actually did try bringing Deo-N down last gen, along with Blazekin. The biggest difference between phero and Deo-N is that Deo-N had a significantly more versatile movepool (no, seriously, it had access to every coverage move it could possibly want on both sides of the...
  17. Resource Ultra SM OU Bazaar

    So yeah, I've been playing for a couple of days and have been trying to come up with a bulky offense team centered around Tapu Bulu. The idea is that Grassy Terrain basically gives lefties to all my mons without lefties and gives mons with lefties double lefties. I've faced enough gliscors to...
  18. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    So just finished trying out the ladder for the first time, been having some pretty decent success with Kommo-o as an aegis counter. Bulletproof lets it swap into shadow balls all day every day and nothing else does too much to it, while earthquake is plenty enough to threaten it out. I threw...
  19. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 5 - Run The Jewels

    As implied in your post, wobbuffet is actually quite poor at outright removing things. Even if wobb removes something, he will immediately forfeit all momentum just because Wobb is super easy to check (just can't really be countered due to STag). The strongest move with Wobb is often times...
  20. np: ORAS OU Suspect Process, Round 5 - Run The Jewels

    Quick note about Wobbuffet from a guy who used Wobb quite a lot. Wobbuffet's strongest ability actually isn't his ability to revenge kill stuff, but his ability to give an opponent a temporary choice item with encore, often times multiple times per match. Unlike Goth, Wobb himself does not...
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