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also you could filter by special defense and most of the mons there do pretty good vs it because florges has calm mind poltergeist has calm mind + strength sap
So if you didn’t know about that and you didn’t read the explicit vote and ban reasoning provided, why go out of your way to post a thread bashing volunteers for just doing their job?
iron valiant is faster because it gets to use the quark drive set up moves and it has setup moves for attack and sp attack which iron bundle didn't have
that still loses to ice beam and freeze dry then and it always runs unaware
i mean it's so clear you're just trying to make up checks and counters as you go. if you played with bundle allowed, it was clearly broken. we had a supermajority of support and a ton of community support. this is becoming a waste of my time to engage further
also if iron bundle is banned then why is cinderace still not banned its literally just iron bundle but slightly slower with setup and hazard removal. also it outspeeds most stuff because most of the fast mons were removed from the dex
how about you post in the appropriate threads if you have issues rather than bothering me because nothing you are saying is actually true or reflective of the tier and i do not have all day to waste
dude it doesnt lose to ice beam just tera something to counter it also theres a lot of other stuff which can beat it like florges, scream tail, gardevoir, gallade, gothitelle, poltergeist, spiritomb, mimikyu, hatterene, vespiquen if you tera to avoid freeze dry, gyarados if you tera, rabsca, espartha, tyranitar if you run full sp defense and tera, glaceon, espeon, umbreon, sylveon
i have asked you multiple times to stop bothering me. your arguments are not coherent and there are appropriate places to argue if you feel fit. i have told you this and you continue to ignore them. please stop messaging me.