I remember when I started I loved when the guys from these tours made a teamdump so I could use those teams for laddering and learning the tier, or for playing tours or whatever, they just made me want to get in those tiers and learn them. Also fsr I thought they were like the best teams one could have cuz they were in spl! (now i realized its not exactly like that, but oh well). Anyways, here is a teamdump of the teams I used in this spl, with the hope this makes the day of the random ladderer watching this, in whose position I was a few years ago. Also for the not that random that want good teams for tours and get in the tier, or for those who just want teams for tours like classic. For everyone!
I wasnt gonna talk about the teams cuz im lazy and it would take too much, but ig I will add some info based on literally nothing but me giving a fuck when seeing the teams (prolly when I think its necessary).
Also need to clarify that in the pastes names, ¨SS¨ means ¨sleepsack¨, so in the teams named ¨SSS¨ ure meant to sleepsack starmie, ¨SSG¨ sleepsack gengar... and well u can make an idea from that (at least try to sleepsack them for the team working well).
Another clarification, the nicks are the HP numbers where recover fail, one is the % number and the other the actual hp, so if u miss recover then skill issue.
Week 1 vs Serpi
https://pokepast.es/6e61171249013001
https://pokepast.es/f07aa7a8b9407aec
https://pokepast.es/64b3c0b59cf79c44
-In the g1, if u dont sleepsack egg (sleepsack mie), ur team becomes very tauros weak (ur fastest mon is tauros which makes it hard to rk), while also lacking enough para spread starmie gives you (egg doesnt spread para that well cuz has no recovery). Thats why in this 6 imo u needt o sleepsack eggy at all cost, which means going eggy even vs lead jynx (dw, no ones sick enough to click blizz t1 vs starmie), and means u need sing chansey to have ur owns sleeper. Otherwise this standard 6 is UNVIABLE.
-I dont recommend this team, the chans set is bad and fishy, some people freely bslam w lax vs chans when they see sing (and for good reason cuz twless is unviable) so u can catch that w counter but, as I said, twless is unviable and fishy.
-In this one u can (and i actually recommend) change the lax set to 4attacks, and the tauros set to a viable one. Literally.
Week 2 vs GoF
https://pokepast.es/f0c4731420ef8104
https://pokepast.es/d4365fca806f6079
https://pokepast.es/c35f3ebd12ddceae
-If u use my boy jolt use it properly, also this team just has too much goat sets together tf, but is prolly not as easy to master it.
-Ok nah this g2 team is just the GOAT, the GARDENERS themselves. This kinda is what rby HO looks like. Spread para w alakazam from the start, the more the better, then ure prolly forced to bring snorlax in, and then u have to position in a situation where victreebel gets in (for example, the turn snorlax rests). Then with victreebel u razor leaf things, wrap things, para things, and sleep threats like zapdos or zam or eggy or whatever looks dangerous. Its important u use victreebel as an enabler and venusaur as the sweeper, otherwise this wont work. Then when everything is set up, its venus turn to shine, u can get him in vs something in range, or something where he can sd or whatever, u prolly just want to keep him for the end when everything is weakened so it can actually sweep. Some things to consider, with vic try to wrap things considering venu (like chansey til its in venus+2hb range which is like 75%), and only sleep threats cuz otherwise u prefer to keep the sleep for venu, which can sleep whatever is in front (like tauros or snorlax) and this gives him a free sd the turn the opp has to switch, so ideally u keep the sleep for him. This team is fun, enjoy.
-Standard and solid.
Week 3 vs Troller
https://pokepast.es/ab9fbe550afeb80e
https://pokepast.es/47dc8eb57604891b
-Good zap team, not much to add.
-Its literally the same team posted twice for aesthetic reasons, espabila lokete.
Week 4 vs Nails
https://pokepast.es/ed4555dd9918c9a7
https://pokepast.es/bbb442ff2641c446
-Ok so first jynx team (with fake lead mie). This team can be tricky, cuz using jynx is not always reliable, and less with a fake lead (u literally always go jynx t1 no matter what). If jynx cant get sleepsacked (cuz u try but opp refuses to sleep u easily and try to para and kill jynx succesfully, or whatever), u have to sleepsack rhydon. This sounds crazy cuz this means u gotta go rhydon directly after jynx death and, even if u have an egg in front of u, just click bslam and try to bs the eggy, if they sleep u ure lucky, if they attack try to para/lower it enough for ur team denying his sleep. Otherwise u just lose to some other things longterm, believe me here this is the best sequence. But dw, later u have the same 6 with other sets that dont require these stuff soits easier to use (week 5 g2). U having leer rhydon means u need counterchans for monolax, which means u need hb lax for breaking better vs mie (and for being better vs zapdos in case u got ur rhydon sleep).
-This team is og, monoice chans sucks cuz starmie sits on u but here u can afford it cuz it means u para mie so cloy is happy. A sequence i wanna hl for people using lax cloy: use bslam as they go lax, then directly go cloy as they reflect/bslam. Then the next time ur lax comes in he can keep making progress cuz being full hp, dont stick to the lax mirror god u have a cloy.
Week 5 vs Kaz
https://pokepast.es/6ed3fd22234b7636
https://pokepast.es/e65b4ae41a0f78a0
-This 6 had 2 versions, I used the second one in week 9 and I prolly like that one more. Still, solid team, just try not play it very passive.
-So this is the more normal version. In case jynx goes south, u sleepsack mie, which is blizz cuz otherwise egg owns you even when jynx is succesfully sleepsacked, because surftbolt mie is walled so ure forced to go chans and if opp trades chans with egg then his starmie owns you, gg. And we talking about starmie and egg, not 2 randoms, so yeah u need that starmie set. That means u need tbolt chans cuz ur starmie cant even touch his starmie so u need something that pressures it. Counterless chans means u need rest rhydon as a normal lax switch in, cuz w rest ure not scared of para and can ppstall him. And u need ib lax for rhydon, in case ur starmie is asleep/gone with boom eggy/parad, ure still ok vs rhydon cuz he cant really switch in any mon.
Week 6 vs Chuva
https://pokepast.es/060f200eefece483
https://pokepast.es/2ff30f5caf43a4e7
https://pokepast.es/560a1f31dcdc0c99
-This team is interesting cuz backgar is not usual, but vs a no-eq lax its actually pretty good, go gar vs the lax, force him out bring chans, and this gives u a free lax switch in for you to make progress, easy. Oh btw, if u face lead jynx, or if u can realiable boom egg without regretting in the future for not having it rather sleep, then go for the boom, remember u have a fast sleep in the back at the end of the day.
-This team is GOAT number 2 and it sucks cuz im tired of writting already but oh well. This is more HO than the gardeners even id say. If u achieve to sleepsack gar, nice; if not, ure fine by sleepsacking egg dw. Vs everything but zam click hypno t1, vs zam go egg and sleep. If opp has a gengar and sleeps u, go egg and psy, he is scared to boom with ur gar there and u can miss, just take the 2hko psy kill and u can click boom safer with ur mons (if he booms u can too, but u want to have a sleep too preferably). If u sleep starmie, good MU for articuno; if u dont and its not mie rhydon, good MU for zapdos; if its actually mie don but lead jynx, gar hypno hitting/booming t1 gives u the lead too. So yeah theres nothing to worry about! well appart from the team being frail and u have to play supper aggro. If u go lax vs his rhydon and click surf (literally no sane person switchs like his eq is free) u likely put rhydon in peck zapdos range too, which can be huge. And u need tbolt in tauros for cloy, otherwise it cooks. With this team its important that u identify ur wincons well, and that u play aggro. Ure gonna have fun with this too.
-Pretty standard, like isnt this in the sample teams too? LOL, if u really wanna read something about this then go there lil kiddo.
Week 7 vs ZiloXX
https://pokepast.es/36b1702433cb22d2
https://pokepast.es/1a2e9f680942e89e
-Ok so literally same team than the previous one and u still here lol go to the sample teams lil mofo im fr. Ok im gonna add something smh, I think this team is good vs not that skilled people, or so says amaranth, and tbf i won a 4vs6 with this so he may have a point. So yeah it may be a good bring if u think ure way better than ur opp.
-Yo this team is heat too tf, no snorlax!! Tbh no lax has its niche, cuz it lets u bring cloy jolt and egg together, which means u got zapdos switch in, rhydon consistency switchs and good play around vs lax and tauros with the sets u got, as they hardly can get in. Worst scenario is they coming in with all ur team rested, but thatd mean u played passive enough so skill issue. So with the deffensive part snorlax does kinda covered, the offensive part which is breaking vs chans is also achieved with hb egg, clamp cloy and dk jolt, so yeah u kinda covered lax functions here. Obviously ure needing 3 mons for that, but these 3 mons have other rols too, so theres the niche. I also think this is good vs worse players as they need to position themselves well which isnt likely.
Week 8 vs Khaetis
https://pokepast.es/7ff26a78f60bf72f
https://pokepast.es/67acb5b40d404b7e
-Basically I think cloy zap teams are pretty good rn. With jynx version u need counter chans for monolax and u in general need boomlax here for zap or even for trading vs mie and make cloy a threat. Its an offensive team that works pretty good.
-Same but with gengar version, which means u dont need counter for monolax, but now u need sing. Also due to the lack of psy resist I also think u need hbeam here on lax, cuz otherwise zam cooks u (with jynx u could reset drops easier), so u have this lax set which makes the team even more offensive.
Week 9 vs Gefarlicher
https://pokepast.es/8188f2042dbdbb7f
https://pokepast.es/b5bbce873442cd87
https://pokepast.es/c3e0494587cedafd
-The version I talked before in week 5. Very solid team, imo the most solid u can run rn.
-Ok so this team is goated. It has no tauros but dont panic. So basically vs gar or jynx u stay and click lk and play a more normal game. Vs starmie/zam u go chansey in their tw t1 and u tw t2 them. Then they basically end up bring lax, with which u click counter. If they dont scout u kill, if they scout u go eggy next turn in the eq or reflect or whatever they doing. So now eggy can pressure the zam/starmie parad with 4 attacks, if u achieve to kill them withou booming ure the goat, if not, just boom and kill them. I dont wanna see eggy hitting the field twice in this scenario. So when this happens u go jynx, they most likely go tauros to try to bs you in the lk, but u have a low evs counter jynx to ohko them (btw, evs might not be optimised, i had other evs/ivs distribution right before the game and when i was challing felix it was not valid for whatever compatibility reason so i had to figure out these evs in the moment, so maybe they can be a little more optimal). If they crit and kill you, u say carapinga in the chat and dont panic, with slowbro alive u can always win literally. Then u have a free lk with jynx and u have killed his tauros and zam/mie, so if u lose from here ure unviable. If this ideal scenario doesnt happen, dont worry, try to para/sleep starmie anyways, make his egg boom ur chansey and spread paras. Ur slowbro will now have the good set up to sweep, and it works better cuz opp expects the obvious tauros so surprise factor gives u a lot for that set up.
-Standard team, vs eggy try to trade it with ur zam, dont let him boom in other things or u have problems. In some scenarious, booming with lax early vs his chansey opens a lot of paths for ur psychics to win so consider it.
Ok so this literally took me 1h of writting lol, cuz i wrote more than what i planned but whatever. I was gonna read to see if there are grammatical mistakes but I cba so if there are just take it. Anyways, I hope this gets new people in the tier, helps people who doesnt have teams or whatever. Carapinga.
