it was just sort of the vibe of the pop in
re: om/caffim not following your logic on the following
om/caff
realiti/hydro
m24/vizh
i do think part of what's unfolding here between you two comes from like... one, The Obvious, yeah your playstyle doesn't really jive with a lot of people. Which isn't a moral judgment or anything, it's just what it is. But also, yeah, I think you're right to bring up Cool Weapon here bc I think the only reason we were half as successful as we were was bc we didn't want a town unit to throw away voting power under the banner of Policy in a situation where it would have been extremely abusable by wolves, essentially a free mislunch. I think it took a concerted effort to ask "Even if we disagree, do we believe that you believe what you're saying?" and that meant slowing down, setting immediate feelings aside at some points, and trying to work things through. It took a commitment not just to chopping wolves, but to finding town.make no mistake btw that celevers read on me, whether he realizes it or not, actually primarily stems from meta. he doesnt know what to do with me because im not acting like how i was in the previous games we played together. its no coincidence that hes one of the only people who didnt play in cool weapon and is the one having the strongest reaction. really, if you put him into that game he'd fit right in with everyone else. hes not going to agree with me on this, but i believe this is the core of why celever either is misreading me or believes im an easy misvote target this game and again its probably just subconscious
realiti is targeting me because hes scum
It's true here that like... vills want to make themselves legible - but communication takes effort from all interlocutors. I think Cel's reasons for suspecting you are pretty intelligible from the outside-looking-in, and I get why it'd be especially compelling from his POV (alongside the timeline on that EOD trajectory, I think it also makes a lot of sense that v!Cel sees that earlier vote from Psy onto w!Caff as keeping the fake wagon from becoming a real wagon by pivoting and securing Cel's wagons over both Caff's and Psy's). I have a harder time, in part bc of stuff like this, which just feels weird between partners (like, as w/ that earlier instance between m24/vizh i guess?? you could argue it was some kind of clumsy theater? but occam's razor just says vulnerable wolf was trying to avoid an interaction with vocal&volatile town).Making people understand what you're doing is kinda your job as a player
Yeah sorry it took a bit,M24 can you explain to me your vote on vizh?
What made you flip?vote ls
failed to accomplish this so I'm mobileposting, no links but I'm sure you can find the stuff I'm talking about or somebody samaritan can add them in between now and this eveningi'm going to shower & get ready & try to quickly run through my stuff on lady before heading out
i'll try to double back over some other things that stuck out to me in all the fuss too
Ah but you must remember, I didn't have content to interact with in the first placerealiti tbh its worth mentioning caff NEVER interacts with you either
Right now I'm mostly ok with them, whenever they're on they're always trying to contribute to town, even if they're busy with irl stuff.Schia’s last post is better, but it also fits in with LS being misflip bait. Could go either way methinks.
M24 how do you read Schia? It’s been a bit since you last did (in an independent thing).
My readlist still mostly applies,Update on my current read list
Town:
TBZ - VT (dead)
Celever - at this point I'm pretty convinced they're just townie, being the final wagon vote for Caff is pretty important and they've been actively trying to analyse the game well.
Townlean:
Aura Guardian - While a lot less active, i feel like they generally try to contribute well, additionally was one of the final two on the caff wagon
Schiavetto - My opinions on them have improved a lot since the beginning of d2, the allignment chart shows they're at least trying to solve the game. Additionally just not as confident in my initial reading of the "first two to start the OM wagon" idea.
OM - Target of the flash wagon, generally good vibes even if inactive, feel fine about them
psy - While obnoxious, i still feel generally good about them
50/50:
LS - idk at this point, she seemed like she was putting a good amount of effort in, but also got scumread by a few people, probably a 60/40 kinda split for me
Hydrogen - i just haven't seen them talk enough
Laurel - i have no clue what they are
Scumlean:
Vizh - kind of hard to explain this one, but I feel like they've been acting a bit more desperate? iirc someone mentionned them coming to Caff's aid after he started panicking
realiti - realiti makes the most sense to me as a maf out of the Caff D1 wagon
Mafia:
Caff - Maf 1 (dead)
Also psy is prob thr confused towmactually nah
vote vizh
2 of schia OM psy and LS are confused town rest are scum
You just said there is 2 Mafia in this group of 4, and then voted somebody outside of it?actually nah
vote vizh
2 of schia OM psy and LS are confused town rest are scum